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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:27 AM Original message |
California's Pain Is Only Beginning |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Stimulus passed, so everything will be fine n/t |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. They need to throw all those Repugs out |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Not just the Republicans |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I agree |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 05:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. If you tax obscene wealth, they'll just move.... |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It worked under Clinton. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
46. Exactly how was "obscene wealth" taxed under Clinton? |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. link |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. That was published in 1993 |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Why haven't they moved already? |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Yeah -- if this were the case |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Somehow I don't think that the wealthy Hollywood moguls |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Wrong! Airhorn to the face! Wrong! |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. So all the CA millionaires would move to Elko NV? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Actually, California is an object lesson in over-dependence on income taxes on the rich. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. if the "tiny percentage" has a *huge* percentage of the money, tax it. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You're not seeing my point. The rich don't always HAVE income to tax. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Is it axiomatic that a wealth tax = a taking? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Wealth taxes are an interesting idea, but the implementation is a problem. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
56. Interesting! |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. sad |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. Direct result of electing a cartoon character to run the state |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. amen! |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. "electing" |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. That may teach them it isn't wise to kick out a Democrat and replace him with a Republican. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I don't think that it matters |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. History may disagree with you |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. It's not who sits in the Governor's mansion. It's prop 13. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yep. And it will never change. CA homeowners aren't going to raise their own taxes |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Prop 13 has it's benefits. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It keeps me in my house. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The property tax limits directly benefit almost everyone in the state |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Really? Do you benefit from a crumbling school infrastructure? n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Of course not |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. I know people don't want to pay more taxes, I get it. But CA will forever continue |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. About 55% of the state's revenue is from personal income taxes |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. I disagree with his premise. But agree with the reality. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. and all the state workers that have to take an unpaid day off a week, we won't feel that |
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Word is that the budget will finally come together by tomorrow. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Just in time to start next year budget which, I think, starts July 1st |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. but we've already spent half of the money |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. I hate the referendum system, but we need a ballot measure here |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. 59 Dems in the assembly to 21 Repukes - and it's minority rule in CA! |
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. And Arnold's complete inability to broker a deal between the top two people from assembly and senate |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
22. Let's hope to got we get some rain in the next few months |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Gee, whiz. If only there were some highly profitable source of revenue.. something that, if |
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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Wouldn't that just be the 'shit' if good old Pot saved the US Economy from total collapse. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Wish I could just K&R this response, LOL ! |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Can you tax something that people can grow on their window sill or back yard? |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You can grow tobacco in your back yard too. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You can get in trouble for doing that |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. If nothing else, the savings from the "drug war" would be pretty big. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. California is ready to go with this obvious and simple solution |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. HAHAHAHAHA EXACTLY!!!!! |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
47. At Least Those Gays Can't Get Married! Californians Understand Priorities! |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
50. At least the stimulus passed, which means $$ so education doesn't go down |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-12-09 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. Prop 13 only took a generation to wreck the state |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Glad someone else is shouting this from the rooftop... |
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