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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:11 PM
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Continue creating obese diabetics for profit, or find the cause and cure? Epigenetics?
DM and obesity treatments will soon enough completely break the bank on the health care system. Why all the spending on reseach to treat when the emphasis should be on prevention and cure?

There is a horrible cycle of poisoning and treatment for profit that has to be broken ASAP.

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Mexico pays price for obesity trend

Josefina Fausto, a health expert at the University of Guadalajara, says that behind the explosion in obesity in Mexico is a radical change in diet that stems from the country’s increasing insertion into the global economy.

In other words, they are eating a lot of US-inspired junk food. “A century ago, our biggest challenge was malnutrition,” she says. “Today, it is an excess of foods that are rich in cholesterol and heavy in saturated oils, sugar and salt.”

The worsening diet – the health ministry claims that consumption of vegetables has dropped 30 per cent in a decade – is compounded by a seemingly insatiable appetite for soft drinks, in particular Coca-Cola.

According to the US-based soft-drinks manufacturer, Mexicans drank 573 eight US fluid ounce bottles of Coca-Cola products per capita (roughly 136 litres per person) in 2007 – by far the highest consumption in the world. In the US, the second biggest per-capita consumer, people drank a relatively modest 423 bottles in 2007.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/81779544-f6ca-11dd-8a1f-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

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Epigenetics and Diabesity

Speaker: Robert Waterland, PhD
Baylor College of Medicine
USDA Children's Nutrition Research Center

Highlights

* Epigenetic processes are emerging as major factors in obesity, diabetes, and heart disease; these effects are not caused by genetic mutations, but are still maintained as our cells divide.
* Even genetically identical animals and humans can show differences in character, appearance, and physiology.
* Early nutrition might play a critical role in disease susceptibility; nutrients influence DNA methylation, thereby influencing gene activation and silencing.

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Obesity has been increasing steadily in most parts of the world over the past 30 years, and this rise is associated with a concomitant increase in prevalence of type 2 diabetes, dyslipidemia, and hypertension. What's behind this surge in adiposity? Why are we now in the midst of an obesity "epidemic?" It's logical to blame increasingly sedentary lifestyles and the wide availability of palatable foods. But why do some people succumb to these environmental factors by becoming fat whereas others remain lean? Does the answer lie in our genes?

In his keynote address, Robert Waterland of Baylor College of Medicine suggested that epigenetics, specifically the range of environmental influences on genetic expression during early development, may account for these differences.

"The best example of epigenetics at work is tissue-specific gene expression," Waterland explained. "Most cells in our body contain the same complement of DNA—the entire human genome. But our hepatocytes express a very different subset of genes from the cells in, for example, our colonic mucosa. And although those two cell types turn over throughout life, hepatocytes remember to express liver-specific genes; the pattern is established during early development and maintained throughout life through epigenetic mechanisms."

Waterland and others hypothesize that during critical periods of development, nutrition and other environmental stimuli can perturb developmental pathways, thereby leading to permanent changes in gene expression, metabolism, and chronic disease susceptibility. He and a colleague coined the term "metabolic imprinting" to denote a subset of adaptive responses to early nutrition characterized by a persistent effect lasting into adulthood, and with susceptibility limited to a critical period of development.

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Waterland's team is now working to identify specific epigenetic modifications associated with obesity. To do this, they developed a methylation-specific amplification microarray that amplifies hypermethylated regions of the genome. They validated the microarray in a mouse model, showing that it is indeed capable of identifying relatively subtle changes in locus-specific CpG methylation in normal tissues, and that therefore it is a useful tool to study epigenetic alterations associated with obesity as well as environmental influences on these processes.

Investigations detected "an epigenetic storm" in the hypothalamus during the newborn and weaning period.

Using the microarray, they examined the hypothalamus of newborn and weanling non-agouti mice. Genetic mutations in leptin, melanocortin 4 receptor, neuropeptide Y, and other genes involved in hypothalamic regulation of energy balance all lead to obesity; however, "We know almost nothing about epigenetic regulation at these loci," Waterland stated.

Their investigations yielded a surprise, he said: unlike in the liver, where the team found very few epigenetic changes during the newborn and weaning period, they found "huge changes—an epigenetic storm" in the hypothalamus. Four-fold increases or decreases in methylation were seen during the 21-day period.

"It's not clear what it all means at this point, but this is where we're going," he concluded.

http://www.nyas.org/ebriefreps/main.asp?intSubSectionID=6321

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:13 PM
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1. Say what?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:16 PM
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2. Diabetes existed before everyone was fat.
It is an organic disease whose origin is not well understood.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:51 PM
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5. Type 2 is highly associated with weight, & has increased dramatically.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:55 PM
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7. Yup. That's still not a reason not to look for a cure. nt
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:13 PM
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12. is someone recommending not looking for a cure?
my impression was that the point of the research was to find cures or remedies.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:29 PM
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17. The OP seems to be arguing it is a waste of money. nt
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:02 PM
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10. You read-up on epigenetics and adult-onset diabetes?
The emerging evidence is that chemicals or deficiencies in the diet during critical development periods change and set metabolism via imprinting genes. Not just the calories and gene sequences as factors, but the chemicals and timing of exposures in the diet.

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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:30 PM
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13. Type II had four normal markers for those at risk
The 4 Fs"
1) Forty.
2) Family.
3) Fat.
4) F (I can never remember the 4th).

Now there are preteen kids with no family history with Type II diabetes.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:16 PM
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3. And Mexican coca cola uses sugar.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:30 PM
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4. Fifty to seventy per cent of all newborns are now jaundiced or slightly
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 12:30 PM by truedelphi
Jaundiced. And people still lap up the notion that we should vaccinate one day olds.

Moderation used to be a policy that people followed. Fifteen or twenty years ago, when someone noticed the correlation between young children having aspirin during an illness, and then their developing Reyes syndrom, immediately the word went out that young children should not have aspirin.

No one critiqued that reality with the idea that those saying 'no aspirin for young kids' were Luddites who hated antibiotics or anti inflammatories or other aspects of modern medicines.

But even when there is more proof than anyone would ever need to not immunize entire populations of one day olds with the hepatitis vaccine, those suggesting such early vaccination is horrid are roundly criticized. So now our kids are obese, cancer ridden, addled with ADD and other significant learning disabilities.

And deprived of decent nutrition, kids have diabetes. Hundred and fifty years ago, the average person consumed 48 pounds a year of cabbage. We have replaced cabbage and other greens with bread and soda pop. Then we wonder why kids are sick.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:55 PM
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6. Substantiate that claim.
What makes you think most newborns are jaundiced?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:55 PM
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8. Moreover....
what makes this person think the rate of jaundice has increased?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:11 PM
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15. When my granddaughter was born with jaundice three years ago
I was naturally concerned.

The nurse I talked to at the hospital said, "Not to worry. newborns have a jaundice rate of fifty to seventy per cent."

I then looked around on the internet and found out that was true. It is really astounding - I was born in the fifties, and jaundice was rare then.

A friend of mine who was a school district nurse said back in her day, (the fifties, sixties and early seventies) only 1 kid in thirty had learning disabilities and/or asthma. Now as much as fifty per cent of the kids in any classroom struggle against those health afflictions.

We are moving into scary times. Our TV ads tell us with imagery to spray Febreeze, Lysol and Glade all around the rooms of our house - even while we are cooking and even in the nursery. (Note those ads never say verbally to do it and that it is safe - they used to and the wonderful Elliot Spitzer would slap the companies with a fifty thousand dollar fine for false advertising! BUt a picture is worth a thousand words.)

According to the World Health Org, most "air fresheners" contain benzene - a chem we took out of gasoline so that the gas station attendants would not have such high rates of leukemia and other health problems. The companies got stuck with benzene -s o now we are encouraged to buy the toxin and spray it in our homes! Saves the companies the time and expense of sending the benzene off to the Superfund site where it belongs.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:13 PM
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16. "I was born in the fifties, and jaundice was rare then."
Well now that's a load of crap.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:55 PM
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9. dutch hunger winter & epigenetic changes
http://www.news.leiden.edu/dutch-hunger-winter.jsp

Epigenetics

During the Hunger Winter (the Dutch famine of 1944-1945) the west of the Netherlands suffered from an extreme lack of food. It now appears that the limited food intake of mothers who were pregnant during this period altered the genetic material of embryos in the early stages of development. The effects of this can still be observed some sixty years later. These alterations are not changes in the genetic code, but a different setting for the code which indicates whether a gene is on or off. This is known as epigenetics. One of the main processes in epigenetics is connecting the small molecule methyl to DNA.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:09 PM
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11. Right. The critical period for males is puberty onset and for females in the womb.
These tens of thousands of man-made chemicals in our enviornment need to be tested or re-tested for these effects on gene activations. It may uncover the causes of many cancers also.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:41 PM
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14. There is a surgery with a 95% cure rate for Type 2 Diabetes
They are doing trials in Europe. It is normally done for obesity and it's called Duodenal Switch with Bileopancreatic Diversion. When done for obesity, there is a sleeve gastrectomy and the switch with a bypass of intestines. It's the 2nd part of the surgery that takes care of the Diabetes.

I had the surgery 3 years ago and lost 130 lbs. I didn't have Diabetes, but almost all of the people that have had it have been completely off their meds within a few months at the most.

My surgeon who is in Mexico has done just the 2nd part of the surgery for treatment of Diabetes only and has been successful.

I find it sad that more people don't know about this option and I hope it gets to the states soon!
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