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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:43 AM
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What the hell is wrong with Obama's nomination process?
Christ, this is getting ridiculous. Remember back in November, the fuss made about his vetting process? No cabinet member of his was going to have any skeletons in their closets, nosiree. Yet it's clear now that the vetting process was and is a joke. Apparently the big vetting process to was make sure that Bill Clinton would not cause any embarrassment to Obama. You know, it's sick enough when Republicans obsess about the Clenis. But a freaking Democrat? You must be joking.

And worse, we've had three nominees with freaking tax problems. Remember the saying "In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes"? Apparently that doesn't apply to cabinet nominees.

While Obama's going all out to look "fair and balanced" (where have we heard THAT one before?), he's really making himself look like a fool. So Judd Gregg withdraws his nomination because of "irresolvable conflicts". Here's a hint. By nature, Democrats and Republicans should have "irresolvable conflicts". (Although unfortunately not nearly enough of them do). And make no mistake. Gregg's withdrawal does not make him look bad; it makes Obama look bad. Again.

So lets stop the BS and get some real Democrats in the game, Democrats that will work for the people and not the status quo. Is that too much to ask?
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:46 AM
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1. He thinks Republicans are Rational human biengs
That is the problem. Republicans are neither.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:51 AM
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3. Clinton had a Republican Sec. of Defense. Bush had a Dem Sec. of Transportation. CHILL OUT !
CUT THE SHIT HERE ! Jesus, must you insist on forming a circular firing squad. Idiotic ! Count your god damn blessings and be happy that Bush is gone. What we have now, ON BALANCE, is infinitely better. GROW UP !
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:26 AM
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:00 AM
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14. This is clearly a flaw in Obama.
He must see Republicans for what they are. Their main objective is to discredit him in any way they can. They pray that the economy continues to struggle. They pray for another 9/11 style attack. Is there any doubt on this? Of course there are decent Republicans but they are so frickin' rare. Obama can't continue this "love thy enemies" approach.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:31 PM
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24. It's not a "flaw." He has been slamming their "failed policy ideas" NATIONALLY in case you haven't
noticed. Trying to actually take some high road and reach out doesn't mean he is "flawed." It is called "character" and is actually trying to be more of a uniter than what we just had for eight years. At this same time, this wonderful and brilliant man has no illusions about the R's and their ideology, and he has been saying so and blasting them pretty hard for it. So chill out and give this man a chance. Or would you rather have Bush back?
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:01 AM
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15. I think he will now realize that now. n/t
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:49 AM
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2. Chill down my friend, or perhaps you'd like Mr. Bush back in office?
The cabinet we have under Obama is a collection of angels from heaven, on balance, compared to the band of neocon corrupts assholes we had under the Bush regime. Kindly subdue your hyperbole, count your god damn blessings, and see the glass half full rather than half empty. Finally, step out of the circular firing squad, support OUR president, and be god damn happy that Mr. Bush is GONE. JESUS !
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:27 AM
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8. Stupid does not get smarter with three posts
You offer false dilemma arguments as though filling a cabinet with democrats would somehow bring bush back into office.

Insane dude ..... your argument is insane.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:21 PM
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21. Then you are NUMB. I said a couple of R's doesn't mean we have a horrid cabinet. Get a clue.
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:57 AM
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12. Well I reckon...
having two broken legs is better than Bush too. But if that means I should be satisfied with that, then I have very low standards indeed.

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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:53 AM
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4. And remember, MOST cabinet and other choices have been damn good ! SEE THE POSITIVE FOR A CHANGE !
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:30 AM
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16. wow... that must be some tasty Kool-Aid you're chugging
because you're borderline nuts, IMO.

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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:26 PM
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22. And you're a circular firing squad asswipe who whines like child in a diaper.
When will fools like you ever, ever grow up and get it. We have a DEMOCRATIC president. We have CHANGE now. And what do you do, you IDIOT? You shit all over it right out of the gate. Go back to nursery school and learn how to be happy with all you have rather than pissing and whining about what you don't have. Try giving Obama and his people a chance before you start forming your circular firing squad. Or do you need you need a baby bottle? Try growing up.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:23 PM
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27. ...

...

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:rofl:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:54 AM
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5. Perhaps the problems
that you note have to do with picking politicians to fill political positions.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:33 AM
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9. It really highlights the sad state our government has eroded into.
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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:58 AM
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6. I am both concerned and outraged at everything the Obama team has and hasn't done...
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 05:59 AM by JeffreyWilliamson
Especially the things that I would have done differently.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:27 PM
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23. Then why don't you run for president. Meantime, stop your pissing and moaning. Be happy Bush is
gone.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:33 AM
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10. Uh, nothing?!1 Omlettes, broken eggs... n/t
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:39 AM
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11. Some of the tax problems are minor..some are not.
Frankly there should be no tax problems all of these folks have advisors..they need to pick better advisors. Even I would know that getting a car and driver would require that I pay taxes on the benefit, unless the giver had arranged for the taxes to be paid.
Hilda Solis is on the side of labor, the tax problem was her husbands , he paid it and it was on a business that she has no interests in.
We all know how much the rpigs hate 'real' wage earning people.
Judd Gregg actually asked President Obama for that position then back out at the last minute..seems like he did it to make waves.
HOw many from the far side of sanity have tax problems? Maybe we should look into All congressional peoples taxes from both sides.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:59 AM
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13. Gregg said he could handle the job and then suddenly said he couldn't.
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 06:59 AM by deacon
I believe he was pressured by his own (the GOP) out of the job.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:53 AM
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17. No .... he found out that vocabulary beyond "TAX CUT" necessary
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 10:54 AM by TWiley
and, he could not pronounce all the syllables. He missed that chapter in his "hooked on phonics" lesson. "Tax Cut" is all he can say, and he looks suspiciously at every other economic argument. To him, they look the same and he simply could not differentiate between a box of wheaties and a tin of axel grease.

Good Riddance
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:56 AM
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18. This happens every goddamn time.
I'm sure he had the best intentions to avoid it, just like all of his predecessors.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:59 AM
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19. he's trying to salvage some decency in our political system....
he's not looking at all like a fool to me.
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:04 PM
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20. Well, how's that working for him? n/t
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:34 PM
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25. Set the bar too high.
He has misunderstanding that America's wish for a better government and distaste for corruption along with our disgust for the partisanship bickering that cripples our government is an achievable goal in today's sick and twisted 2 party system which relies on both corruption and petty partisanship to thrive.


The two party system only gives us a perception of democracy.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:38 PM
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26. this stuff happens all the time....
everyone has some skeletons...although I have to admit not paying your taxes (when the govt is about to pay out huge sums) doesn't look too good)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:27 PM
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28. You must be new to politics.
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