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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 08:53 AM
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Republicans take the high ground-don't want to "politicize the Census"
:sarcasm:
PuuhLEASE, spare me the revisionist history.
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Gregg, New Hampshire’s senior senator, voted in committee and on the floor for a 1995 Republican budget that envisioned the elimination of the Commerce Department. Of even more concern to black and Hispanic leaders, Gregg battled President Clinton over a request for “emergency” funding for the 2000 census.

“Secretary of Commerce-designate Judd Gregg ’s record raises serious questions about his willingness to ensure that the 2010 census produces the most accurate possible count of the nation’s population,” the National Association of Latino Elected Officials said in a release on Tuesday, the day Gregg was named to the post. “Policymakers and planners at all levels of government rely on these data to make important decisions about their services, such as the number of teachers that will be needed in their classrooms, the best places to build new roads, or the best way to provide job training.”
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000003024858
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GOP Threatens Legal Action Against Obama for Plan to Oversee 2010 Census
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/12/gop-threatens-legal-action-obama-plan-oversee-census/
A Senate committee has scheduled a hearing next month on the potential change. Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee are also pushing for an investigation.

"If the president doesn't acquiesce to our letter, then we will seek the courts," said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., a ranking member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee,

That in turn sparked an uproar from Republicans, who accused the White House of injecting partisan politics into the census and seeking to cut out agency professionals in favor of political operatives.
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Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), the senior Democrat on the census
oversight subcommittee, said that while the funding level in the House bill is
"great news," the "Republicans created this emergency" by failing to
support a "less expensive, more accurate census plan." Congress
tentatively plans to start its summer recess on August 7;
https://email.rutgers.edu/pipermail/dox_nj/1999-July/000182.html
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John Cornyn (TX), the Senate GOP's current campaign chief, told me that "I don't think it's right to play politics with the Census" but added that he hadn't heard in full about his House colleagues' apprehension. The ultimate decision on the issue may rest with another Texan, Kay Bailey Hutchison, the senior Republican on the Commerce panel.

Still, there's only one Republican who would know that: Sen. John Ensign (NV), who's a member of both committees. And he also happens to be Cornyn's predecessor in the GOP campaign chief's post ...
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/gregg-confirmation-flashpoint-emerges-as-gopers-decry-white-house-census-move.php
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December 5, 2003
Updated: December 22, 2003
On the same day, however, the Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee issued a news release claiming that after-tax income went up - and citing Census figures. What the release did not say is that the numbers being quoted were not the official Census measure of after-tax income, but an obscure, unpublished "experimental" measure that (among other things) does not take account of income from capital gains. The JEC Republicans had even issued a different release earlier in the day, saying that after-tax income was down, and laying blame on the Clinton administration.

Analysis
There was little comfort for Republican political hopes in the income and poverty figures released by the Census Bureau on September 26. They showed that 1.7 million more Americans fell into poverty in 2002, while income of the typical household declined by $500. And while tax cuts had clearly eased the pain some, for the typical household it was not enough -- even after-tax income declined by $310.

But that did not stop House Republicans on the Joint Economic Committee from putting out a news release claiming Census figures showed tax cuts had produced an after-tax income gain of $249. "This is the first increase in after-tax median income since 1999," said the committee's vice chairman, Republican Rep. Jim Saxton of New Jersey. Without the Bush tax cuts, Saxton said, "there is no doubt that middle income households would have suffered reductions in take-home pay in 2002."

Actually, middle income households did suffer reductions in take-home pay by every measure that the Census bureau published. It publishes 16 different measures of before- and after-tax income, some of which attempt to count such things as the value of Medicare or the paper profit from rising home values. All 16 went down in 2002, including definition 1b, the bureau's official measure of money income minus federal, state and local income taxes.

The Republican release was based on an obscure statistic not included in the official publication, "table RD-1", which Census calls "experimental." It is a less comprehensive measure than definition 1b, as it does not attempt to count income from capital gains or losses (actual profits or losses from sale of property such as real estate, stocks or bonds). Since 2002 was a poor year for the stock market, ignoring capital gains and losses gave a more favorable picture than did the official after-tax income measure.

Footnote: Before they dug up the RD-1 statistic, JEC Republicans issued a news release minimizing the decline in median household income and laying blame for it on the Clinton administration. It focused on Census definition 14, an after-tax measure which counts as income such non-money items as the value of school lunches and employer-sponsored health insurance. Even that measure went down $133, but the draft release quotes Saxton as saying this was "essentially unchanged, with the apparent decline falling within the margin of error."

http://www.factcheck.org/census_says_income_is_down_but_some.html



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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 08:55 AM
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1. I think he meant...."Un-politicize the Census"
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:02 AM
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4. UN-politicize?? That would imply that it *had* been politicized
now who would do a thing like that???
:eyes:

Actually the census has a long history of being politicized on all sides so the contention that it is NOW being politicized is pure crap.
Elections do have consequences-the census, SC nominations, etc.
that being said although I see their point about Rahm the census clearly needs to be brought up to speed after years of being underfunded and underminded ...by guess who?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:00 AM
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2. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa!!!!
Republicans don't want to....
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:01 AM
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3. Whenever the repukes start yammering about something
It's a guarantee that they are projecting. And dumb as a post Cornyn forgot what his buddy DeLay did in TX.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:04 AM
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6. That is for sure. The project like none other.
What happened in Texas was a prime example of how they operate. Of course it got almost no coverage other than yelling at the Dems to "DO YOUR JOB!!" and other nonsense.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:02 AM
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5. Riiiight. These are the same people who tried to politicize Dancing With the Stars.
They royally deserved how that blew up in their faces.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:05 AM
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7. ?
I must have missed that one
:shrug:

Tucker?
uh....I am at a loss. They do that sometimes to me
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:09 AM
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8. Tom Delay sent out an email asking people to support Sara Evans
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 09:10 AM by tanyev
Last week “Tucker” senior producer Willie Geist reported that former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay had endorsed country singer Sara Evans on “Dancing with the Stars.”

“We need to send a message to Hollywood and the media that smut has no place on television by supporting good people like Sara Evans,” the letter read. “Sara will be a great representative of the values that we want to see in the media and we should all support her to keep her on the show as long as possible.”


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14808309/


Only a few weeks later, Sara's marriage to Craig Schelske, who has run for office and been involved in lots of GOP fund-raising, blew up rather spectacularly with accusations of adultery and abuse coming from both sides.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:14 AM
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9. Oh I do remember that now
If I recall correctly Craig watched porn *IN* the living room with his kids running about

Sara subsequently had a near breakdown on the show over the whole thing

Divorce:
The grounds for divorce as filed by Sara on 10/12/2006 are:

* Irreconcilable Differences
* Inappropriate Marital Conduct
* Adultery with Alison Clinton, former nanny to the Schelske children. Alison has denied the allegation stating that at her wedding, Sara was her matron of honor and Craig was a groomsman.

Sara ended her relationship with the popular ABC series "Dancing With Stars" so she could spend more time with her three children.
http://marriage.about.com/od/entertainmen1/a/saraevans.htm

Another Republican Revealed as Sex Pervert: GOP Fundraiser and Husband of "Dancing With the Stars" Contestant
Here are a few Schelske highlights from her juicy divorce complaint:

* Keeps over 100 obscene pictures of himself on his computers
* Keeps several photographs of himself having sex with other women
* Solicited various types of sexual activity over the internet through Craigslist
* Frequently threatened and verbally abused her
* Watched "pornographic material" in front of one of their young children
* Would not let a "Dancing with the Stars" costume designer into their home because he is a "sodomite"
* Said that one of their young children "broke out in hives because he saw the costume designer who is a 'sodomite'"
* "Refused to let (their) children go to a performance to hear their mother sing The Star Spangled Banner"
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/alerts/126
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:05 AM
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10. Well now those activist judges are starting to look pretty good to GOP hypocrites.
Let's see now, we have an upcoming census that will trigger changes in US House of Representatives electoral districts - unless you're a Republican, then you gerrymander away whenever it suits you. It's state governments that will redraw those lines.

In 2000, when the last census was conducted we Democrats had outright control of 16 state legislatures, the GOP had control of 18, and 15 were split. Now we have control of 27, Republicans have 15 and 8 are split. So yes, I can see how these hypocrites want to change the rules now and let activist judges decide.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:54 AM
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11. Somehow, the (r)Pigs squealing soothes me to no end.
It's as if all is good with the world.
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