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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:06 PM
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Looting Social Security


By William Greider

This article appeared in the March 2, 2009 edition of The Nation.
February 11, 2009

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090302/greider/print?rel=nofollow

Governing elites in Washington and Wall Street have devised a fiendishly clever "grand bargain" they want President Obama to embrace in the name of "fiscal responsibility." The government, they argue, having spent billions on bailing out the banks, can recover its costs by looting the Social Security system. They are also targeting Medicare and Medicaid. The pitch sounds preposterous to millions of ordinary working people anxious about their economic security and worried about their retirement years. But an impressive armada is lined up to push the idea--Washington's leading think tanks, the prestige media, tax-exempt foundations, skillful propagandists posing as economic experts and a self-righteous billionaire spending his fortune to save the nation from the elderly.

These players are promoting a tricky way to whack Social Security benefits, but to do it behind closed doors so the public cannot see what's happening or figure out which politicians to blame. The essential transaction would amount to misappropriating the trillions in Social Security taxes that workers have paid to finance their retirement benefits. This swindle is portrayed as "fiscal reform." In fact, it's the political equivalent of bait-and-switch fraud.

Defending Social Security sounds like yesterday's issue--the fight people won when they defeated George W. Bush's attempt to privatize the system in 2005. But the financial establishment has pushed it back on the table, claiming that the current crisis requires "responsible" leaders to take action. Will Obama take the bait? Surely not. The new president has been clear and consistent about Social Security, as a candidate and since his election. The program's financing is basically sound, he has explained, and can be assured far into the future by making only modest adjustments.

But Obama is also playing footsie with the conservative advocates of "entitlement reform" (their euphemism for cutting benefits). The president wants the corporate establishment's support on many other important matters, and he recently promised to hold a "fiscal responsibility summit" to examine the long-term costs of entitlements. That forum could set the trap for a "bipartisan compromise" that may become difficult for Obama to resist, given the burgeoning deficit. If he resists, he will be denounced as an old-fashioned free-spending liberal. The advocates are urging both parties to hold hands and take the leap together, authorizing big benefits cuts in a circuitous way that allows them to dodge the public's blame. In my new book, Come Home, America, I make the point: "When official America talks of 'bipartisan compromise,' it usually means the people are about to get screwed."

The Social Security fight could become a defining test for "new politics" in the Obama era. Will Americans at large step up and make themselves heard, not to attack Obama but to protect his presidency from the political forces aligned with Wall Street interests? This fight can be won if people everywhere raise a mighty din--hands off our Social Security money!--and do it now, before the deal gains momentum. Popular outrage can overwhelm the insiders and put members of Congress on notice: a vote to gut Social Security will kill your career. By organizing and agitating, people blocked Bush's attempt to privatize Social Security. Imagine if he had succeeded--their retirement money would have disappeared in the collapsing stock market.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:07 PM
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1. I didn't think there was anything left to loot in Social Security.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:08 PM
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2. Social Security ISN'T broken.
Pass it on...
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:21 PM
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4. ...yet. But they're working on it.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:53 AM
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21. Exactly. nt Rec!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:20 PM
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3. not much left to loot - its never been saved
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:23 PM
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5. RATpublicons won't be happy until they destroy SSI
Why they have declared war on the SSI program for the last 60 years is a mystery but they have sought to destroy it from within since it's inception.

FDR originally had a "Pay as you Go" SSI system in place which was the first thing stuck down by RATpublicon Senators in 1942. FDR originally Vetoed the change but it was overturned

How all the other drains on SSI funds came about is mystery but I would like to see some intelligent discussion on the subject rather then all the RATpublicon drivel.

1 SSI funds used for Political Asylem Refugees
2 SSI funds used for Zero interest loans for Political Asylem Refugees
3 SSI funds used for disability payments to the Mentaly Impared which ends up covering Housing, and Employment
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:07 AM
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17. FYI: SSI isn't social security. It's Supplemental Security income, & it's paid out of general
revenues, not Social Security taxes.

I correct the error because it's so common, but damaging to the SS program.

SSI is income for people who can't work & never worked enough to vest in SS; when people talk about "drug addicts getting disability!" this is usually how they get it.

But people confuse it with Social Security & think drug addicts are being paid with SS funds.

So - just FYI.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:35 AM
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19. Yes and you can include the whole New Deal and FDR's legacy
Every time you turn on TV the R's are dissing the New Deal claiming it didn't help end the Great Depression--in short, rewriting History.

Unfortunately, they got help from WJC getting rid of Glass-Steagall.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:36 PM
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6. 1 More way to break the middle class and get rid of the elderly and infirm!
I was thinking the other day how all those "rich" people that Maddof broke down to nothing and now have to live on their Social Security payments think about this now? I bet they would like to kiss FDR's grave!

I just posted a comment about Rush Limbaugh and asked if he really wanted to have homeless people living in tents on his way home from his palatial home. I guess in some ways these bastards like Rush would like to "eliminate" the elderly and sick so they didn't have to "spend" any of their moldy money on them! :grr:
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:37 AM
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20. Putting them out on an ice floe
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:58 PM
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7. If I recall correctly, SSI would be fine if it hadn't already been raided heavily
by Reagan to make the economy look good.

We 'baby boomers' are the first generation to be taxed for the purpose of not only paying for our parents, but also ourselves. I've been paying that FICA tax all along. It's my money and I'll be damned if I'll let them steal any more of it without a fight.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:43 PM
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14. If I recall correctly, it was used to help pay for part of the Vietnam war
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:47 PM
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22. Wow. There's a piece I didn't know about. Jeez.
It all adds up to Social Security being just fine if it wasn't raided.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 07:01 PM
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23. You are very correct
If that money had been sequestered from the general fund all of these years, we would not have a social security trust fund full of IOUs for the Federal Government. Those IOUs will be have to be paid out of the general tax fund when they become due. Then the choice will be something like, Health care vs. social security, medicare vs. social security, Defense vs. social security. SS will just be another line itme in the federal govt budget that something will have to be paid on, but not all that is required. We had better hope that the pubs are not incharge when those decisions need to be made.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:00 PM
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8. They cannot be "looted" because they are just accounting numbers.
When are people going to learn how the Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid fundings work.

All payroll deductions for those items physically go into the US Treasury. That is the law. The bookkeeping is posted to reflect incomes and outgoings.

There is physically NO cash in those Trust Funds available to be looted.

And any monies "borrowed" by the US Treasury from Social Security and Medicare must be paid back WITH interest, which accounts for substantial income for those Trust Funds.

Go here: http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/funds.html

Browse around and see what actually happens. Check out those interest charges and interest income on "looted" I mean "borrowed" funds.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:31 PM
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12. Thank you for the links. SO one can be educated about the system
I have certain beliefs about what Social Security has as its holdings, but now I can see what the government thinks is true (And their perception is more important than mine.)
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:17 PM
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9. Yes SS CAN still be looted
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 01:24 PM by snot
Even though it's true the SS funds have been borrowed by the rest of the gummint, there's still an obligation to repay. If the U.S. is insolvent, there's a HUGE difference between being first in line for whatever's left vs. being last in line behind Wall St. cronies or, Halliburton, or worse, not being in line at all. Here's a draft I'm working on; comments welcome:

I'm pretty old. I've worked all my life, stayed out of debt, saved, invested carefully--everything I was "supposed" to do.

During the last six months, I've lost at least a quarter of my retirement fund.

Now they want to cut Social Security and Medicare. (Several DU posts have brought this up; v. sorry I don't have the post URL's handy; but see
http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/12/obama-social-security... / and
http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_11674580
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryhnB4bjQNY&eurl=http://... )

They've never yet missed an opportunity to try; they succeeded in large degree when they pushed through the "baby boomer" increase on SS taxes and changes to the CPI to which benefits were pegged; they're certainly not losing focus now.

WHO SHOULD PAY for our current deficits/disaster

I really DON'T want to saddle younger people with the burden. But I and my employers have been paying into SS and Medicare for decades, and I just PAID (lost) half a million bucks in my 401(k) etc. So if someone has to pay extra to bail out our economy, who should it be?

1. Old people who worked hard and saved, just lost a lot of their savings, and have no prayer of recovery before they die, let alone before they retire (and many of whom, let's also mention, have no prayer of finding a job in this economy)?

2. Young people who haven't yet lost much and may still have time to recover? A lot of younger people who have not been affected by the crash. They had not saved, they have not (yet) lost their jobs, they at least theoretically have time to recover before they retire. (I'm NOT saying this is what should happen.)

3. The wealthy top 2% who've benefitted the most by far from the regime of tax cuts and deregulation inaugurated under Reagan (remember the S&L debacle enabled by deregulation, and the subsequent bailout at taxpayer expense, which monstrous though it seemed at the time was apparently just a test-run for the much larger-scale looting now underway?), including but not necessarily limited to the Wall Street and military-industrial types who've most recently and visibly helped create this mess??

4. Esp. including the *ssholes who've made/are still trying to make a bundle on credit derivatives and naked shorts???

Personally, I'm voting for a new benchmark in public accountability: not one taxpayer should lose one dime before every one of the *ssholes who've made/are still trying to make a bundle on credit derivatives and naked shorts have LOST every dime.

HOW IT SHOULD BE PAID

1. We can cut Social Security and other "entitlements" to the people who contributed the most and who need it most, the elderly and the poor.

2. We can inflate the dollar, so everyone suffers equally in proportion to the dollars they hold. (I think this is inevitable/already happening, even despite strong, ongoing deflationary forces.)

3. We can tax the sh*t out of everyone with assets or income greater than $2 million. 'Cause if you have more than that, you don't really need it, esp. not compared to the rest of us; and at least some of anything over $2 million was probably ill-gotten anyway.

4. We could confiscate the assets of the *ssholes who've made/are still trying to make a bundle on credit derivatives and naked shorts. They just confiscated a quarter of my life-time savings.

Thanks.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:37 PM
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10. Social Security is NOT broken-that mantra should be on everyones lips. nt
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:35 PM
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13. The combined OAS and DI trust funds were $2,418,658 million in 2008.
That's about as unbroken as it gets!

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4a3.html
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:47 PM
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11. Kick & Reccomend!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 08:19 PM
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15. Another article from TPM today: Dean Baker
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 12:27 AM
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16. WHO DO WE CONTAC, apart from our own reps, Obama, and Dem House and Senate leaders?
Is there a particular committee chair or the like that we should contact?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:08 AM
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18. good question
I have my doubts it would do any good though. Sadly, they are pretty much all corrupted. :(
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