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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:11 PM
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Baby-Faced Boy Is Father At 13
Source: The Sun

BOY dad Alfie Patten yesterday admitted he does not know how much nappies cost — but said: “I think it’s a lot.”
Baby-faced Alfie, who is 13 but looks more like eight, became a father four days ago when his girlfriend Chantelle Steadman gave birth to 7lb 3oz Maisie Roxanne.

He told how he and Chantelle, 15, decided against an abortion after discovering she was pregnant. The shy lad, whose voice has not yet broken, said: “I thought it would be good to have a baby.

“I didn’t think about how we would afford it. I don’t really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10.”

Alfie, who is just 4ft tall, added: “When my mum found out, I thought I was going to get in trouble. We wanted to have the baby but were worried how people would react. “I didn’t know what it would be like to be a dad. I will be good, though, and care for it.”




Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:13 PM
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1. what the mother fuck?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:19 PM
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5. I couldn't have said it better myself
obviously the dad didn't talk about condoms to his 13 year old son...geeze...
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:22 PM
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8. of course he didn't
dad has nine of his own!
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:29 PM
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10. Yup.
No other way to respond, really.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:32 PM
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13. Correction: What DID the mother fuck?
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 09:33 PM by alcibiades_mystery
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:37 PM
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:39 AM
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57. I'm thinking quite possible, after seeing this - she's twice his size. he is so tiny.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:13 PM
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2. Why do I suspect they never let him have a puppy?
Or a goldfish.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:15 PM
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3. Sad.
Being 13 is not an advantage to raising kids.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:19 PM
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4. He doesn't even look like
he hit puberty yet.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:32 PM
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12. Exactly. Some 13 years old look much older. This one looks
much younger than 13.
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Quiz Master Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:23 AM
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50. Yeah, but with just the right hair....
He could grow into the spitting image of Blago...and how do we know they're not related. Slightly o/t, if you're a sucker for Blagopunishment, you might want to wallow in this.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:13 AM
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62. No kidding. That kid better demand a paternity test.
And here I thought I was a late bloomer.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:20 PM
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6. scary
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 09:21 PM by arcadian
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:21 PM
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7. His father is planning
to have "the birds and bees talk" with him?

Anyone want to tell the old man that the horse is out of the barn?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:24 PM
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9. Hmmm
:freak: Don't know if I'm buying this story. Has the youngster hit puberty yet?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:35 PM
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14. I dunno. Like the article says, he looks to be about 8, and his voice
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 09:42 PM by LisaL
hasn't even broken yet.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:33 AM
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63. I didn't think you produce..
... sperm until puberty. I'm highly skeptical of this, I'd have to see a DNA test before I believe this story.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:29 PM
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11. Can't be a good sign that he calls his daughter "it." n/t
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ozu Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:36 PM
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15. british tabloids are awesome
seriously
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:04 AM
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66. seconded.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:39 PM
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17. People are crazy
That's all I have to say.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:40 PM
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18. I'm speechless.
I'm almost never speechless.

Often I don't post what I'd want to say. But I'm almost never speechless.

.....
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:44 PM
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19. ESP=Every Sperm is Precious
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jb5150 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:57 PM
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24. ESP
Especially shitty parenting!
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:13 PM
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25. for every sperm that you waste, god gets quite irate! n/t
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digidigido Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:01 PM
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41. so don't masturbate
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:44 PM
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20. Wow
That almost made my greasy fast food dinner come right back up.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:51 PM
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21. I thought boys couldn't produce sperm until they went through puberty . . .
This may be a hoax.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:16 PM
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28. Interesting theory... but I found this...
Boys do not produce sperm before puberty. As he enters puberty, he may begin to ejaculate fluid, which will be more like pre-seminal fluid, than the normally white, viscous semen that he will produce as he matures. Even this early ejaculate may contain a few sperm cells. Though they are not in the same quantity as in a mature ejaculation, under the right conditions, they can produce a pregnancy.
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:17 PM
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29. Guys, take a look at the source. It's the bloody Sun
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:52 PM
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22. Oh that's so sad. All the way around. nt
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:52 PM
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23. Maybe the fucking parents should have taken the girl to "the doctor" and hit the boy wih a stick.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:14 PM
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27. Violence is the answer to sexual activity?
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 08:02 AM
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65. "Hit him with a stick" is hyperbole for "set the kid straight". I'm not suggesting that they
literally hit "him with a stick".
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:47 AM
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68. There are some people who will read that and take your advice.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:10 AM
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73. hyperbole
from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hyperbole

hyperbole

One entry found.

Main Entry:
hy·per·bo·le
Pronunciation:
\hī-ˈpər-bə-(ˌ)lē\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Latin, from Greek hyperbolē excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw — more at devil

Date:
15th century

: extravagant exaggeration (as “mile-high ice-cream cones”)
— hy·per·bo·list Listen to the pronunciation of hyperbolist \-list\ noun

No, "Hit him with a stick" means "hit him with a stick". no more- no less.

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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:20 PM
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31. Yeah, that's how to do it. /sarcasm
Sane parents, on the other hand would have reduced the chance of something like this happening in the first place by teaching their children about contraceptives and making them available to them as soon as they became sexually active.



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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:29 PM
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34. That kid looks 8 years old.
Has it occurred to you that maybe his parents had no clue he was sexually active?
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:47 PM
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39. The story is most likely a hoax. I was speaking in general terms
Truthisfreedom is still way out of line.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:14 PM
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26. That is just fucked up
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:17 PM
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30. there was this hideous car accident by my house today...
I can drive by without looking at that, yet I had to take a look at this. I am a sick fuck.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:25 PM
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32. Why isn't adoption discussed anymore?
Why can't a stable, loving couple get the opportunity to adopt this baby? Has adoption become some new unspeakable notion?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:28 PM
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33. O.o
My only reaction is O.o
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ilrslr3 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:31 PM
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35. "care for it" WTF!
It is a baby; somebody pinch me.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:38 PM
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36. Typo in story?
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 10:39 PM by Stand and Fight
"He became a dad at 12 when the girl next door, 15-year-old Emma Webster, gave birth in Sharnbrook, Bedford, in 1998."

Nevermind. Speed-reading has its drawbacks.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:40 PM
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37. No, there is no typo. They are talking about a different boy who
became a father at 12.
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:44 PM
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38. "The Shy Lad" is apparently not so shy
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:49 PM
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40. Next thing you know, Madonna will be dating him. She likes them young and fertile.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:39 PM
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42. his parents must be proud...
coming from that family, that baby is gonna have a lot of cards stacked against her...

please let the sun follow up on this story 10 years from now...
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rebecca_herman Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:51 PM
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43. Wow
He looks 8 or 9. He looks like that child's older brother.
I wonder why a 15 year old girl wanted to have sex with a 12 year old boy too especially one so young looking. The whole thing is bizarre.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:24 AM
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47. I got no clue. Take a look at the photo of the 15 years old.
She looks much bigger than he is.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:00 AM
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44. "The Sun" is a supermarket tabloid
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 12:01 AM by Lydia Leftcoast
I paged through a copy that someone had left on a train in England.

I'd give this story as much credence as I would to any supermarket tabloid story.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:02 AM
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45. This sounds like it could be another version of the song...
I'm my own grandpa.

God help us.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:33 AM
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56. GREAT MOVIE REFERENCE!
I have been hoping they'd put it on DVD. Been telling my wife about it, and that song in particular is hilarious. "The Stupids..." In fact, I've got my wife regularly saying, "Oh, Lloyd!"
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:10 AM
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61. I like this version ...
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AyanEva Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:12 AM
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46. Is this a joke? Please tell me it's a joke.
WTF. I mean, I've heard of the mother being 12 or something so I guess I shouldn't be surprised when it's the other way 'round.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:49 AM
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48. wrong place
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 12:56 AM by Lydia Leftcoast
n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:55 AM
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71. It COULD be, since this is from The Sun. (Unreliable sensational British rag)
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 09:56 AM by LeftishBrit
Their finest headline - in the 80s I believe - was "FREDDIE STARR ATE MY HAMSTER."

But I wouldn't be too surprised if it were true this time. (ETA: it seems to be reported in other media too. And many 13-year-old boys are physically capable of reproducing.)
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AyanEva Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:14 AM
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77. .
"FREDDIE STARR ATE MY HAMSTER."

RRRRRROFL


They should really just give the kid up for adoption, IMO. Their families have too many kids of their own to take care of and the parents are too young to take care of the baby. It's just best to find a nice home for the baby elsewhere.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:01 AM
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49. I repeat, THE SUN IS A SUPERMARKET TABLOID
Just look at it's website, and you'll know.

There is nothing about this story in The Guardian, The Times of London, or the Independent. Even The Telegraph, which is fond of stories that indicate that the world is going to hell in a handbasket, has nothing on this. Nor does the BBC website.

Conclusion: THE SUN IS A SUPERMARKET TABLOID

Geeze, people. Figure out whether a story is true before you get indignant about it.

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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:03 AM
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54. It broke in the Sun
Because they sold them the story.

Remember, Brit tabloids are not the same as American tabloids
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:28 AM
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59. However, they give a ton of corroborating detail
They name everyone concerned and the hospital the baby was born at. They can't put all that on their front page with it being basically true - they may misquote people, but they couldn't print pictures of children like that in a made-up story. There are too many people involved - people will say if they've made it up.

If it were "a 13 year-old Sussex boy is said to have become a father" then it would be suspicious.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:57 AM
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72. Good point, I'm afraid
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:43 AM
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64. Practically all of the UK papers have picked up the story.
I just saw it on the Independent, the Daily Mail, and a couple of other papers.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:47 AM
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69. Thank you. Considering this story, the story about the woman who "swam the Atlantic,"
and the fisherman who were afloat in the cooler for umpteen days, one hardly knows what to believe any more.




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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:50 AM
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70. And so what? Maybe you should take a new look.
:eyes:
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:32 AM
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51. As Gregory the Great once said, "Non angeli sed angeli."
/nt
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:56 AM
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52. Why so surpised? Is it mostly his looks?
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 02:53 AM by CRF450
By looks alone, yeah that is a bit of a shocker, but a huge number of kids start having sex around 13. You all should know that much.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:58 AM
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53. No shit.
The kid looks to be 8. The article claims he is 4 feet tall. But why be shocked?
:eyes:
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:28 AM
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55. Well yeah, by looks alone it would seem to be that way.
But he's still a 13 year old hitting puberty plus being introduced to sex or porn most likely by the older kids.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:21 AM
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58. "Maisie Roxanne" !!!!! OMFG!!!
I feel sorry for the kid, having such unimaginative parents.
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Brimon Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:21 AM
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60. Welcome to The U.K. 2009.
It is a sad indictment on our, U.K. society, when this kind of thing is publicised. I look back to when I was young, 1960's, & even then being an unmarried mother carried a stigma & was a source of embarrasment to parents & was hidden, often with the girl & her baby being sent to stay elsewhere.
Here you have a situation where the parents are allowing their children's faces to be plastered all over a tabloid national newspaper.I despair.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:14 AM
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75. I think the UK was named the most promiscuous country a few months ago
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 10:17 AM by Sultana
:shrug:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:18 AM
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76. gawd, they were probably dogging when she conceived
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:43 AM
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67. babies having babies. sad.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:11 AM
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74. WUT?
:o

:wtf:

:crazy:
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:15 AM
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78. I'm betting he's really the brother. nt
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:17 AM
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79. Not to pee all over everyone's indignation,
but why is this news? Because he's 13? Because he has a baby face?

When did teenage parents become Latest Breaking News? It has happened before, you know - many times.
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