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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:56 AM
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With all the bitching going on about Couric
and others, I have two questions for DUers. Besides Olberman, are there any television people out there who meet with your "standards" and just what do you all want in media? Me? I want fairness, if Edwards or whomever gets grilled hard, then so should a republican. Also, if a Democrat does something wrong, it needs to be reported on, as it should be when a republican does something wrong. I tend to agree with Michael Moore when he says that the media people may not be conservative or liberal, just lazy. I also think that an awful lot of the griping about the media, on both sides, is a matter of perception. If a news reader says something negative about a Democrat, people start screaming "conservative!", and same thing when a republican is portrayed negatively, "Liberal media!". Just read the news and have enough faith in us to decide things.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:59 AM
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1. I just think the attitude that people have to put family in front of their work
is insulting to those of use who care about work and our careers.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:05 AM
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5. Couric put her career before her husband's cancer, did
she not? Why shouldn't she be accused of using her husband's illness to gain sympathy to enhance her career?
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obaman08 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 01:23 PM
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17. Edwards is not putting his work ahead of his family..
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 01:26 PM by obaman08
He is trying to serve his country to protect his and American families future! Not my candidate, but at least tell it right
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:23 AM
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18. I said nothing about John Edwards

I was talking about this assumption that putting work before family is such a horrible thing.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:59 AM
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2. I agree with Michael Moore too
And you too for that matter. If you are ideologically driven though, you may not realize it. You may believe that an honest looking around at the world supports your position, and thus are frustrated that the news fails to reflect what you see.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:02 AM
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3. The problem is that when these journalists play the devils advocate
while interviewing, you don't see them doing the same to the other folks on the aisle. At least that's how I see it.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:04 AM
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4. One, from a purely objective perspective...
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 10:08 AM by ClassWarrior
...she used a cowardly journalistic trick, hiding sources that would taint her questions if they were revealed. That kind of behavior on the part of people charged with uncovering facts is just plain wrong, whether on the left or right.

Second, off the top of my head, I'd say Amy Goodman (and the DN! team) and David Shuster are right up there with Olbermann.

NGU.


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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 11:07 AM
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15. Don't forget David Gregory
Snow bashes him all the time for being "Partisan" -- even when Gregory is reading a quote.


Katie is accused by both sides of being a shill for the other. I remember when the book about the slanted liberal media was released, Curic's interview of the author, Coulter. Curic was blasted as always being mean to republics. They got into a strong discussion. Later, the right was saying Coulter won, the left was saying Curic won. That was the only time I remember the left saying anything positive about Katie.

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:05 AM
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6. browbeating a terminally ill woman and her husband transcends politics
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 10:06 AM by npincus
it's a question of decency and fairness. And, in Couric's case HYPOCRISY... she worked throughout her husband's terminal ilness and nobody had the poor taste and indecency to question her motivation or commitment to her family.

Liberal shimberal. This one merits calling out by ALL fair and decent people of any political party. Even the ultra RW Laura Ingraham has come out in support of Elizabeth and John Edwards' decion to carry on.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:07 AM
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7. Must we say "bitching?" How about griping, kvetching, harping....etc. nt
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:11 AM
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8. Katy literally jumped on her desk and crossed her legs at the end
of one of her first 'newscasts'. You tell me what kind of a job she does. I don't want to have a beer with my president and I want my news to come from someone that at least has a professional demeanor.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:13 AM
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But other than Olbermann
name one other democrat/liberal commentator on TV. There is absolutely none. So don't tell me the media isn't republican biased.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:16 AM
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10. Oh, well there's Glenn Beck?
Hannity? O'Reilly? Tucker? Scarborough?


Gosh, this is hard!
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:13 AM
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9. But other than Olbermann
name one other democrat/liberal commentator on TV. There is absolutely none. So don't tell me the media isn't republican biased.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:21 AM
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11. Right on. I want fairness for both sides in the media, or we will base
our political conclusions and voting decisions on something less than reality. And for all those posters who keep pointing out that Katie didn't suspend her own career to take care of her husband, my response is: The interview was about the Edwardses, not Katie, or what Katie did 10 years ago, or Katie's husband's cancer. I did not see the interview, but I am gleaning this from all the comments posted since. Giving the Edwardses the opportunity to explain their decision can't be anything but beneficial to them. Asking hard questions that most Americans may be privately thinking helps them clear the air with their answers. I don't know if it was skewed or not, but it's hard to imagine John and Elizabeth would come off as anything but good and brave people who are doing their best in the face of tragic news, no matter what we think of Couric.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:36 AM
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12. With regard to your comments about the Edwards
As you said you did not see the article. The point being made was yes, the Edwards were congenial and wonderful with their answers but it was not necessary for Couric to continue bashing them on the head with one question phrased differently over and over again. It was an odd thing coming from someone who had been in the exact same position but was never asked to justify how she dared to continue her life. Had you seen it you may have felt differently. In the whole scheme of things it really doesn't matter. Lives of Innocent people are splattered across the streets of this planet without much notice on a daily basis.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:40 AM
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13. What do you mean?
you say "people" but I'm not sure if you mean pundits, commentators, actual reporters, or perhaps just news readers... could you clear it up?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:43 AM
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14. If i saw Couric treating a Republic couple the way she treated


John and Elizabeth Edwards, I would be just as upset.

There is a way to treat other humans and a way NOT to treat them, and Couric and much of the mainstream media do not seem to get it.

How many times do we need to hear an interviewer ask, "How did you feel when you found out your wife had cancer?" or "How did you feel when your house and all of your earthly belongings were washed away in the flood?" or "How did you feel when you found out your son got eaten by ants?" Well, how the hell would anyone feel?

Do reporters think we're all idiots, or are they just so disconnected from Real Life they ask these questions to satisfy their own curiosity about how the lower people live?

I stay away from the media normally. But I wanted to see for myself what the Edwards had to say. i was disgusted by Couric's attitude toward them, as I would be were she grilling ANY couple facing cancer, no matter their political leanings.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 11:16 AM
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16. What do I want in media?...
Journalists would be nice...especially those that practice investigative journalism. Ordinary Joes and Janes providing something called news. The where, why, how, and when, and the sources used to determine the answers. The only news I can tolerate is local. Everything else is a joke. Call me crazy, but mean-spirited, divisive commentary, especially of the ear-bleeding Pat Buchanan, Chris Matthews kind, has no redeeming qualities. It is counter-productive if my goal is to ascertain what is going on in the world. Perhaps I am just not easily entertained.
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