Why do the Repubs always talk about Reagan and not Eisenhower?

[edhopper]

Ike was a far more successful President with a grander legacy (Winning WWII and the Interstate Highway to name two). But with the Repubs it's always Reagan, Reagan, Reagan! Two Recesssions, a collapse of the Savings and Loans and selling missles to the Enemy is not a great legacy.
Have they disowned Eisenhower? Was he too moderate? What gives?

[leftstreet]

1. Why is Obama talking about Lincoln and not FDR?

:shrug:

As for DeRegulationReagan, more people around who remember him I guess.

[geardaddy]

12. Because Lincoln's 200th birthday

was yesterday. And he's from Illinois.

[leftstreet]

14. FDR's birthday was January 30

But that's not the point.

Obama's been talking about Lincoln since he started campaigning.

[geardaddy]

16. Yeah, I wasn't aware of that.

I agree that he should be talking about FDR more than he talks about Lincoln.

[SCantiGOP]

15. Here's why

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron. ~Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech, American Society of Newspaper Editors, 16 April 1953

Hard to imagine, but this is how a conservative used to think in America before the days of Reagan and Rush.

[hologram]

23. Totally unRepublican.

Calling the public's attention to the dangers of the "MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX" has no place in a fascist agenda.

[aquart]

2. The Reagan legacy is beggers and infomercials.

I never saw homeless people outside of the Bowery until Reagan. I never saw a half-hour/hour commercial till Reagan, either. THAT's his legacy.

[ComtesseDeSpair]

3. Eisenhower wasn't evil or incompetent enough.

[eleny]

4. Nor Goldwater

No surprise there,though.

[SCantiGOP]

24. Goldwater wouldn't be allowed in the GOP now

Favored gays in military, legalization of pot, called the military draft 'modern day slavery.' He just wouldn't fit in today.

[eleny]

30. Right. He even supported Choice

[HughBeaumont]

5. Too moderate. Not enough of a fundamentalpatient for whack-a-doo Repukes.

Plus Eisenhower was the one who "let them nigras intuh the whaht main's skuuls!"

Reagan appealed to the closet racists and homophobes practically telling "His Democrats" that it was OK to come out of their houses and proudly proclaim their hatred for various minorities and "teh gayz"!

[BOSSHOG]

6. Because limbaugh, the leader of the gop, tells them to

[driver8]

8. Exactly -- and all the good little dittoheads do what they are told. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

7. Why do liberals prefer to talk about FDR's New Deal instead of LBJ's Great Society? nt

[EFerrari]

10. Viet Nam. n/t

[Greyhound]

9. Because Eisenhower rejected the idiots that run the Republic Party now.

He called them stupid, selfish, short-sighted, un-American, and completely rejected their philosophy.

[EFerrari]

11. You beat me!

:thumbsup:

[underpants]

18. Ike's letter to his brother Edgar 1954

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower in a letter to his brother Edgar, November 8, 1954, Snopes page
https://en.xiandos.info/Dwight_D._Eisenhower
Link to snopes page
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp


Other quotes

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"From this day forward, the millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city, every village, and every rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty."
--Dwight D. Eisenhower when signing into law the phrase "One nation under God" into the Pledge of Allegiance.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
-- Dwight Eisenhower, April 16, 1953

I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower, Farewell Address January 17, 1961 (source: Fortune program)

https://en.xiandos.info/Dwight_D._Eisenhower

[dmosh42]

13. Reagan stood for class warfare, very neo-con... n/t

[Uncle Joe]

17. Because the nation slid further down the corporate supremacist rabbit hole

and that's were Reagen's ideals are located, not so much with Eisenhower.

Eisenhower wasn't perfect but he did warn in his farewell speech against giving the growing military industrial complex too much power whether sought or unsought, this coming from a preeminent military leader of World War II.

Today, the same military industrial complex which Eisenhower warned against have the government by the short hairs and the standard of living for the civilian population has paid a heavy price over the decades.

Thus Eisenhower's warning is something they want to forget.

[rhiannon55]

19. Because their knowledge of history doesn't go back that far...

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. Because they think Reagan is still alive.

[geardaddy]

21. To be fair...

He won WWII as a general, not as president, but otherwise I agree with you.

[SidneyCarton]

22. Because were he alive today, Eisenhower would not be allowed into the GOP fold.

[izquierdista]

25. And Bill Clinton would be

Despite them trying to impeach him over nothing, he pals around with ol' Herbert Wanker, and never saw a globalization scheme he couldn't sign onto.

[Greyhound]

27. Had Clinton been around then, he would have been a Republic,

I'd say he was anyway, but that is another story.
:kick:

[SidneyCarton]

29. Oh, did he mean in the 50's...

That's different, Bill may very well have been a Republican in the 1950's, but not as many Republicans were psychopaths during that period.

[SidneyCarton]

28. Maybe...

Bill is a lot like the almost-extinct New England Republican, agrees on economic issues, but not necessarily on social ones, though they are often too weak-willed to take a stand on them. Clinton was never "left" but were he a Republican, he would hardly sit well with either the Santorum/Palin/Robertson wing of the party, or the Rove/Limbaugh/Norquist wing of the party.

[anonymous171]

26. Reagan brought most of them into the party. nt