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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:29 PM
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What's wrong with being accountable to your funding sources?
Have you ever applied for a Federal grant, or worked for an organization that was funded by a Federal Grant? Here is how it works: First you must prove to the grantor that there is a need for the service you plan to provide with the grant monies. Next, you must describe how this service will be provided. This includes submitting a budget listing all the salaries of all the positions and justifying all expenses associated with the delivery of the service. This budget must be approved by the grantor (the Federal Government). If, in the opinion of the grantor, any salary or other expense is not justified, it may be disallowed. Then, in order to show that there is local support for your organization, a portion of the total budget must be raised locally. Yes, even though the Federal government is only funding part of the project, they make the decisions about how many employees and how much they may be paid, as well as any and all other expenses.

Should you get the grant monies, representatives of the government will visit your organization on a regular basis to observe the operations, and to make sure you are providing the services specified in your grant application. They also will audit your books, and may disallow any expenditures they deem unsuitable. Most of these grants are given to non-profit entities who provide services for altruistic or charitable purposes.

If these entities can meet the terms necessary to obtain Federal assistance, why is it that banks and other for-profit entities can ask for and expect to receive Federal bailout money, and yet be so indignant at the idea of being accountable to the government for how that money is spent, and how much employees are paid? In light of the fact that they have mismanaged their businesses into bankruptcy, one would think these executives would welcome some assistance in running their businesses.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:37 PM
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1. When it's convenient for them, the banks want to view this like a loan
at least until it comes time to discuss paying it back. Then, they see it as a grant. As a loan, they only need to provide a general outline as to what the money is being used for, and the government gets no say in the specifics.
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:34 PM
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3. I haven't heard any of them mention
paying the money back.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:48 PM
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4. I don't recall which bank it was
but one of them started talking about repaying the money once the CEO found out they are considering capping executive compensation, for those who take the money, until it is paid back.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:37 PM
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2. The last decade has been about RAW ILLEGITIMATE POWER
Those who rule us have just used force and done whatever they wanted and dared more rational souls to stop them--and of course, rational souls are no match for rapacious, conscienceless powermongers. They have destroyed our normal expectations of public officials. They have injected chaos and lies into the public commons.
They've been able to get away with it because Republicans and their water carriers deftly removed most of the legal restraints in preparation for the biggest heist ever. And don't worry, they will all thrive and profit while the rest of us pay the price. Because we are loving, responsible rational souls who would never use force to do deliberate evil--and they are shameless Viking plunderers.
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