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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:23 AM Original message |
Obama a "Magic Negro"? |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm shocked. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Why so shocking? n/t |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Are you serious? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Well, on second thought |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Well, first of all, |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. No, you make it sound like film archetypes are distinguishable from real-life cultural stereotypes |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Well shit, |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. And I read this RIGHT AFTER seeing this video: |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. I've read Rush jumped on it and called Obama a Magic Negro like 30 times |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. LOL |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Like cat turds cascading from a litter box into the trashcan? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Nice! |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. What a bizarre opinion piece |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Easy, that's how it's done nowadays. |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. Hmmm, does Earvin Johnson count? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. one of the problems with the piece |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. Anytime a "piece" begins with the "every carbon based life form" |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Yeah, I hate that one too. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
9. Ronald Reagan referred to the "Welfare Queen" which was totally |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. No, that's not his point at all |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
47. "Welfare Queen" is actually based on an ancient and vile archetype |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
11. I suspect the author, himself African American, is being a little more |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. Yes. Not just film, but literature -- and politics. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. True enough |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
19. Snarky 20th century sociology? Sounds like a lot of bullshit to me. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No, you don't understand the meaning of the term. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. 'Magic negro' is a denunciation? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. No prob. I tried to think of examples but they're all debateable |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. These are real archetypes. I think Obama is trying to go for "Camelot" -- the whole Arthurian thing |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. That's interesting |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I guess that's the lesson |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. You mean you dont like Edwards: "The Magical Southern Gentlemen"? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I was thinking more of the Henry VI reference |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. For those of us with only 3 Shakespeares, quote please? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Really, it is |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Question |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Well, I'm not sure MLK liked being stereotyped as an inoffensive "magical negro" |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
29. Oh Please. We whities can't vote for Sen. Obama because |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No-no- that's what makes it "magic." |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
30. Is the author of this article a Magic Negro as well? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Yes, actually, I could see Edwards being an example of a "Magical Cracker" |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-26-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
32. That is VERY interesting. |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-27-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. This was gone over from every angle here three or four days ago. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
41. As a Latin American black guy |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. If black people who support Obama despite policy disagreements are realists, |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
44. I wonder what archetypes the author is using for "white amurka" |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It's not sociology, it's basic Jungianism. n/t |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. It's a sociological metaphor used in film criticism. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-28-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Interesting. So he "cut right through white liberal platitudes of race" |
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