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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:21 PM
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Kay Warren: Following Christ means being ‘seriously disturbed’
Kay Warren: Following Christ means being ‘seriously disturbed’

WACO, Texas (ABP) -- Becoming a disciple of Jesus Christ means being willing to say “yes” unconditionally to God, knowing he likely will lead his followers into uncomfortable places, Kay Warren recently told a conference at Baylor University.

For Warren, it meant becoming a global advocate for people with HIV/AIDS, for orphans and for other marginalized and vulnerable groups.

Her husband, Rick, is pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., and author of The Purpose Driven Life.

Accepting Christ’s invitation to deny self, take up a cross and follow him means being “dangerously surrendered, seriously disturbed and gloriously ruined,” she told The Next Big Idea conference, an event sponsored by Baylor’s School of Social Work, Truett Theological Seminary and the Leadership Network.

Warren told participants both at a conference plenary session and workshop how she became “seriously disturbed” a few years ago by reading an article about AIDS in Africa.

“The article said there were 12 million children in Africa orphaned by AIDS. And I couldn’t name a single one of them. There were 33 million people with AIDS. And I couldn’t name a single person who was HIV-positive,” she said.

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“The pursuit of the American dream in and of itself will ruin you. Pursuit of health, wealth and happiness will ruin you. And so will following Christ. If you’re going to be ruined, why not be ruined for something that matters -- something that lasts?” she asked.

http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3838&Itemid=53
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Liberal Jesus Freak Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:41 PM
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1. Can I be first?
"Well, That explains a lot". :)
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:42 PM
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2. The Premise is Correct
it's the explanation that's nuts.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 05:27 PM
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8. What premise? Self-loathing?
I think her premise is insane.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:43 PM
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3. she really is seriously disturbed .....
those two certainly are a pair of.....what the hell are they?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:47 PM
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5. But if she puts her words into action and shows unconditional love, not
"Christian Love" I'd be willing to give her props.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 05:28 PM
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9. Con artists. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:43 PM
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4. Reading that, she does sound disturbed, now that you mention it!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 05:25 PM
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6. it also means lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for warren and his family nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 05:27 PM
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7. As someone who objects to Christianity in principle...
...I would like to put this "Exhibit A" sticker on Mrs. Warren and her theology of despair.

Nothing good comes from the denial of self and the doctrine of redemption by suffering. And the pursuit of health, wealth and happiness are normal.
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