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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:23 PM
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Will the stimulus package curb or spur consumerism?
Or: no effect?

We have to kill consumerism, not further encourage it. That is, if we want to survive as a nation.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:42 PM
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1. How does killing consumerism help our nation?
Isn't that what is spiraling down now? You want more of this lack of auto sales, home sales and retail sales?

That means less jobs, more unemployed.

I don't see what your goal is.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:56 PM
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2. well, people do need some basic necessities of life, but I agree we as a nation
were too engaged in lots of unnecessary spending, for the sake of spending and keeping up with the Joneses, or something...


I think the package was designed to keep people working and in their homes... and keep necessary state and local services intact...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:13 PM
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3. Many in this country have been 'taught' to value themselves, and others, based
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 10:13 PM by Mnemosyne
only on what they 'own'.

Very sad.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:16 PM
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4. There will always be some form of "consumerism", problem is
it ended up hyper-charged.

Interesting thread, brentspeak. Thanks for the thoughts. :hi:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:18 PM
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5. I'm perfectly fine with consumerism, and hope the stimpack encourages it. nt
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:52 PM
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6. Well, then go ahead and charge your credit card till you're drowning in debt
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 10:53 PM by brentspeak
and your corporate masters are laughing themselves silly. Knock yourself out. :eyes:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:59 PM
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7. Belief in a consumption-driven economy doesn't necessitate
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 10:59 PM by Occam Bandage
belief in irresponsible debt. Such predatory and usurious lending practices end up causing bubbles in the short term and a choked economy in the long run. Consumerism is entirely compatible with increased regulation on the supply side of things.

Is a consumerist economy the best of all possible ones? No, of course not, but it's hardly the worst, and frankly I'm not of the belief that it's best to give your car's engine a tune-up when it's teetering over a ledge. Fixing it when it's on solid ground is a good idea, and rebuilding it better if it's fallen and demolished is a good idea, but trying to fix it when it's teetering might well cause it to go tumbling over the edge.
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