(It KILLS me to say this) Thank you Senator Lieberman

[Stinky The Clown]

His Homeland Security and Government Affairs committee passed out committee by 11 to 1 the DC Voting Rights Act.

http://www.washingtoninformer.com/wi-web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=661:senate-committee-approves-dc-voting-rights-act&catid=60:local&Itemid=149

It is likely to pass into law in this Congress. with actual bipartisan support.

The fly in the ointment? In order to get enough repub support, they had to give another congressional seat to Utah.

It appears the votes are there in bth the House and the Senate to get this one through this time.

Joe ..... thanks for not being your usual diskheaded self.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Screw Lieberman.

[Taverner]

2. Think he's trying to save his soul? Atone for his sins?

Or just save face despite the backstabbing?

[Occam Bandage]

5. He's always been a very reliable vote, so long as he is not distracted with

thoughts of Israel, terrorism, or war. He's perhaps the biggest hawk in the Senate (his brazen support of McCain, and his tacit support of Bush, were almost entirely based on Iraq), but on anything else he's a decent member of the Dem caucus.

[Taverner]

9. Why is his blinding support for Israel so strong?

Yes, I understand he's Jewish.

So am I.

So are a lot of people.

And most of us don't think a "destroy the perceived enemy" strategy is worthwhile, unlike the NeoCons and Likudniks.

[Occam Bandage]

11. I have no idea. I really don't know. And as much as

I appreciate his strong support for progressive domestic issues, I cannot generally support a Senator who repeatedly turns his back on both his party and his country, all for the sake of a foreign nation.

[Taverner]

13. Thing is - he isn't acting in that foreign nation's interests

Unless the foreign nation you speak of is Saudi Arabia

Honestly - 8 years of the Bush Admin - how well has it served Israel? They've been fighting war after war under Bush. In wars, lots of people die. More and more countries in the Islamic Belt want to obliterate Israel.

I remember traveling through that belt in the 90's. Most people were tolerant of Israel. That is NOT the case today.

So is he really acting in Israel's interest? (well, unless that interest is suicide)

[Occam Bandage]

17. He's acting in a way that he, the Israeli government, and a significant

plurality of both Israelis and Americans believe is in the interest of Israel. I agree with you that Israel's strategy in the past decade has been counterproductive, but unfortunately a peaceful two-state solution seems less and less a realistic possibility. I don't know how Israel might be coerced, goaded, or led towards a healthier mindset; as such I wish we'd just get out and stay out.

[Taverner]

19. Personally I like the idea of cutting off cash

They do rely on our defense dollars

Also - if Jordan could be persuaded to take the West Bank and Gaza, that might take the heat off of Israel

Honestly - Israel needs to realize they are an island in a sea of folks who wish them harm.

[rvablue]

21. REALLY???? Remember this:

I'll take his vote.

I'm not going to forget this very soon, though.

[Occam Bandage]

22. Obviously I do, given that I wrote,

"He's perhaps the biggest hawk in the Senate (his brazen support of McCain, and his tacit support of Bush, were almost entirely based on Iraq)"

[Pirate Smile]

12. Lieberman at the Alfalfa Dinner: he has become "the first person in U.S. history to be granted a

pardon by a president before he had taken office."

[BlooInBloo]

3. Fuck Lieberman.

[Occam Bandage]

4. Utah will get that seat anyway next census. nt

[dkf]

6. How in the world does this land up in the Homeland Security committee?

I have no idea how they put these committees together.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. "Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee"

I have NO idea how that got assembled. I also fail to understand the affinity between DHS and gov't affairs.

[dkf]

8. Yup. Does not compute.

[democracy1st]

10. he will screw you over the guy is just a bad person!

[NNN0LHI]

14. Not me. If we had needed 80 votes enough Rethugs would have voted for it to make it pass

All this Republican bluster isn't fooling no one.

Don

[GentryDixon]

15. Utah was slated for a seat anyway, based on the last census.

[L0oniX]

16. So are you dead yet?

:evilgrin:

[yellowwood]

18. Why?

Why should you thank someone for voting in his own interest? He's always done this, and nothing else.

[stray cat]

20. Obama was right - there are times we need his vote