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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:41 PM
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Reinventing Retirement
Special Report: Reinventing Retirement by Peter Keating (Author Archive)

http://www.smartmoney.com/Personal-Finance/Retirement/Second-Time-Around-for-Retirees/

The Second Time Around for Retirees

Here’s a sign of the times:

Enrollment at the American Bartending School in New York City has shot up, and some of its new students are in their 50s, from retired social workers and laid-off investment bankers to fashion designers looking for extra income. More than ever, thanks to the ongoing economic downturn, planning for and living through retirement requires a second job or new career, even if that means learning how to mix a grasshopper. Older Americans actually have excellent long-term employment prospects, and since we could all use some good news, let’s look at that fact first. As boomers retire, millions of jobs are going vacant every year—more than younger workers can fill and more than companies can downsize out of existence—and many are being taken by boomers who don’t retire.

Experts disagree about just how severe a labor shortage the country faces in the coming years, but these demographic facts are already keeping or pulling back a record number of older Americans into the work force. The labor force participation rate of workers aged 65 and older, after dropping for decades, began rising in the mid-1990s. The percentage of seniors working full-time started increasing around the same time and continues to climb. And from 2006 to 2016, the federal government projects that while the number of workers age 16 to 24 will drop, those age 55 to 64 will jump by more than a third—and those 65 and older will rocket more than 83 percent. As a July 2008 report by the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts it, “The graying of the American work force is only just beginning.”

An aging population of consumers presents new job opportunities, too. The increasing use of medical services is already generating a staggering need for nurses and medical technicians. When it comes to financial services and retail management, older customers tend to seek advice from older employees, creating openings in all sorts of sales jobs. Workers looking for retraining and advanced degrees are driving a need for more teachers and adjunct instructors at colleges. Restructuring companies shedding redundant operations and expensive employees are looking to hire consultants and contractors. When the economy starts growing again, these are all likely to be booming fields.

Further, businesses are finally waking up to a realistic assessment of the benefits of older workers. Employers traditionally have assumed that older workers, because of their greater experience and longer tenure, are much more expensive than younger employees. But it turns out that older employees are also, on average, more motivated, less prone to turnover and more willing to work on flexible schedules. In 2005, Towers Perrin, looking at the energy, financial services, healthcare and retail industries, found that if firms where 20 percent of new hires are age 55 and older double that proportion to 40 percent, their total compensation costs would rise less than 1 percent. With numbers like that added to their anecdotal experiences, many firms have begun outreach programs to keep or find older employees.

That’s the good news. The bad news, obviously, is that for the moment and into the foreseeable future, all these trends will probably be swamped by a national economic slide that is destroying hundreds of thousands of jobs every month. There could hardly be a worse time to walk into a bank and ask about a job or to launch a custom-design-guitar Web site you’ve been doodling about. The best response, as always, is to assess your needs honestly, then control what you can, which in this case means reducing what you invest in a second job or career. If you require significantmonthlyincome just to meet your expenses, this is no time for speculative ventures. You might contact your old company or similar businesses and try to land a consulting deal or some kind of work where you can put your long-built skills to use. And in the meantime, don’t turn up your nose at local customer-service gigs; bookstores and coffeehouses often need reliable help who can work flexible schedules.

If you need a financial boost to feel better about meeting your long-term goals, be careful about what you spend, because returns on just about every investment are dubious at best in this economy. Bartending school? Sure; it’s brief and cheap. Veterinary-technician school? Maybe; there’s a real need for skilled help in that field. Broadcasting school? Probably not. Finally, if you are looking for work more out of a need for purpose than cash, consider public service, where opportunities abound and employers will teach you what you need to know. One great example: the Peace Corps, which is so keen to attract 50-and-older volunteers that it’s been recruiting at Lions Club and AARP chapter meetings....


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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:50 PM
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1. Old people: The New Frontier in Cheap Labor
Sorry, but whenever I see the phrase "labor shortage" being used in earnest my bullshit alarm goes off. The Baby Boomers produced a generation of children who, get ready for this, outnumber their parents. That's right, there are more so-called Echo Boomers than Baby Boomers so this notion that there's a shortage of workers, necessitating the importation of workers from other countries and/or keeping older people from retiring is just horsehockey. The plain fact is that employers have grown too accustomed to having the upper hand and will not learn new behavior until they have their generous labor glut constricted.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:53 PM
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3. What I always wonder is this..
When three generations are competing for the SAME jobs, how CAN wages rise?..answer?..they' won't.

There used to be definite levels of employment..

after school/teenager jobs
young, just-out-of-school jobs
entry-level career jobs
real career-track jobs
part-time, pin-money jobs

now they are all jumbled into one frantic mess..and all seem to be headed in the wrong direction, monetarily:(
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:47 PM
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7. I am one of the people you describe...I teach your children at a University
A job I could not afford if I did not have some other income, namely the inadequate retirement from prior jobs
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:57 PM
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17. Exactly.
You should be able to retire fully, while Gen Xers make a good living teaching. But Gen X-ers are scrambling to find consulting or adjunct professor gigs, while both they and young people are trying to figure out how the hell they're going to pay off student loans.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:06 AM
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19. In all fairness, I had always intended to retire as a prof
I love teaching and have no urgent need or desire for tenure. I also like teaching the 200 level courses, which many disdain. I could live on my "real" retirement, but teaching keeps me active mentally and physically and the salary does help
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:09 AM
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21. You're one of the good ones, Prof.
:hi:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:52 PM
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2. Some federal agencies facing a real brain drain PDQ
NRCS is looking at losing over 1/2 of it's workforce; boomers about to call it quits and nobody going into the agency (or damned few).
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 07:02 PM
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4. The Boomers have children
They outnumber their parents and are entering the work force in droves right now. The children of the early stage Boomers are in their late 20s and early 30s now. So if there aren't replacements for the people retiring from the Federal gov't in the next few years it's a failure of our education system and a lack of planning and vision by the people running those departments. But it is NOT from a lack of potential workers. This is being used as an excuse to try and bring in more cheap labor and it's bullcrap. We have too many people who need jobs in this country and that number is going to grow.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 07:22 PM
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5. Two generations have heard government reviled and hated
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 07:24 PM by havocmom
Not too many people want to deal with that shit. And the pay isn't great.

Problem is, as a society, we do not VALUE many very essential jobs. Lots of the soon-to-retire NRCS field office and high management people came of age in the idealistic 60s when working to make the environment better and help farmers/ranchers develop better practices while improving their land and income potential were in vogue.

We don't value the production of food nor do we give a shit about all the facets of keeping food production going. We have mega-corporations supplying our bellies and we don't appreciate how vulnerable that makes us.

It is a society value problem.

edited to add: also a lot of us boomers did not have many kids, being aware of the fact that it is a finite world. Many of us did not reproduce at a replacement rate. ;)
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 07:31 PM
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6. The Echo Boomer generation outnumbers the Boomers. That is a fact.
And while you're right that the anti-government meme has gained traction over the years I suspect that it is changing as people, especially the younger generation, are rejecting the lousy ideas of Raygun and the trickle downers.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:12 PM
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13. Not true at all. Boomers still outnumber us greatly.
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 11:14 PM by ContinentalOp
"Seventy-six million American children were born between 1946 and 1960"

"If the years 1978-2000 are used - as is common in market research - then the size of Generation Y in the United States is approximately 76 million<8>."

So that means The boomers and gen y (echo boomers) are equal in size, only if you count the boomers over a 14 year period and the gen y-ers over a 22 year period! In other words, not equal at all.

And us Gen Xers in between are dwarfed by both of those generations.

EDIT: But I agree that using these demographics to try to argue that there aren't enough workers in the U.S. is just batshit insane right wing propaganda designed to justify more outsourcing and H1B visas.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:00 AM
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18. But if you factor in the Boomers still working, Gen Xers, and Echo Boomers entering the workforce
We're fucked, once you add in insourced and outsourced foreign employees.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:48 PM
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8. Actually, the current predictions are moderating since most Feds take anothe job when they "retire"
and there aren't a lot of them right now.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:38 PM
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10. My point is, there are some critical services where there is about to be a huge brain drain
They have had enough after the damage bush appointees at the heads of agencies (along with top-heavy staffing, leaving the field offices hurting) and there is a big bunch about to leave federal service. It will hurt, but in ways most consumers will not notice right away. Food production in US will get more corporate and less human friendly.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:39 PM
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11. Contract support at their former agencies is a staple of Fed retirees
DoD and others are facing the same issues
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:04 PM
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12. USDA doesn't have the $$ DOD has for contract consultants
And I am speaking of the worker-bee class, the ones actually in the trenches with public, getting work done. People leaving NRCS do not get to work for the agency as contract, nor would most want to. They are fucking tired.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:07 AM
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20. CSS is not quite the same as consultants...but I also understand your position
Contractors are often cheaper than civil service at Defense
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:49 PM
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9. yet another article gleeful about all us boomers foregoing retirement.
Yes! Step right up! Employers want you! The masters of the universe destroy our savings, rip apart the economy just as we are about to get our lives back from the damn corporations whose cubicles we have slaved in for lo these many years, and we are treated to these lighthearted little pieces talking about where we can get our next job.

Get this: I don't WANT another fucking job. I want to RETIRE. I do not want to ever darken the doorway of a workplace again. I have worked since I was 15. I worked 2 jobs to put myself through college. I've been a cubicle rat ever since. I AM SICK OF WORKING. I am sick of coworkers, sick of computers, sick of being inside all the time, sick of being so drained when I get home that I can't even muster up the energy to do a hobby.

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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:16 PM
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14. I stopped reading after this line:
"As boomers retire, millions of jobs are going vacant every year—more than younger workers can fill and more than companies can downsize out of existence"

:eyes: How can anyone say this shit with a straight face? Is this person just an absolute moron or somebody who is paid to dispense right wing cheap labor propaganda? Or maybe I missed something and our unemployment rate is down to zero thanks to this "shortage" of workers. :shrug:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:19 PM
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15. "Reinventing Retirement" = work til you die, for lower wages.
fuck these shills.
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:24 PM
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16. After this past year of watching my IRAs tumble, like so many
other workers, I don't see myself ever being able to afford to retire. My spouse is considering getting a part time job to go with his full time job.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:26 AM
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22. Reinventing or abolishing?
;(
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