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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:30 PM
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First truly progressive Democratic presidential nominee
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 08:30 PM by Ardent15
I say it was James Cox in 1920.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:36 PM
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1. William Jennings Bryan. 1896
It was a Bellwether election that marked the leftward turn of the Dem Party.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:37 PM
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2. Maybe, but he supported the KKK and was socially conservative
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 08:38 PM by Ardent15
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:48 PM
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3. suported how?
He was mostly silent on civil rights issues, but he didn't demagogue on race like many Democrats in that time. I'm not aware of him actively supporting the Klan. I don't believe he was socially conservative by the standards of his time.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:51 PM
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4. He canpaigned for the Klan in the 20s, but you're right.
He only supported the Klan because they opposed two Republican administrations in the 20s.

Rust Belt populism can be traced to Bryan, just like New England liberalism can be traced to FDR and the Kennedys.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:10 PM
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7. In what way did he
campaign for the Klan? I've read a couple biographies on him and I thought he tried to avoid supporting or antagonizing them. They weren't a factor in 1896 in any case.
I think Bryan was more progressive than he gets credit for. Bryan and Darrow were on the same side of most issues.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:07 PM
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5. He was an ardent Christian fundamentalist
And took a dim view towards church-state separation. He also was a "dry", although Prohibition was an issue that split progressives, with some self-styled progressive supporting it and others opposing it.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:11 PM
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8. He also was a creationist. He constantly attacked evolution.
I believe he even had something to do with the Scopes Monkey trial.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:15 PM
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10. That doesn't make him conservative.
He was fighting Social Darwinism. By fighting Darwinism he was fighting the neo-cons of his time who believed in survival of the fittest policies. Regardless of how wrong he was scientifically, he was taking a progressive political stance.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:12 PM
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9. And?
His form of Christianity lead him to take very progressive positions on poverty, equality, war, US imperialism and more. The fact that he reached his conclusions from a Christian perspective doesn't make him less progressive. Most of his 1906 convention speech reads like it was given by Dennis Kucinich in 2004.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:28 PM
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12. Yes and no
I'm not disputing his positions on those issues was very progressive. But it is also undeniable that he was a Christian fundamentalist, and was seen so at the time. Many "liberals" of the day were staunchly opposed to Bryan because of his overt Christianity and his squishiness on church-state separation, which, face it, is a pretty basic progressive tenant of U.S. government.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:40 PM
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13. He may have
supported policies I don't know about but speaking about religion in his speeches alone doesn't violate the separation of Church and state. That doesn't make him any less progressive than MLK or Gandhi who had similar views on peace and economic equality. I understand why Marxists didn't like it but that's only one branch of the movement.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:09 PM
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6. Thomas Jefferson was pretty progressive for his time.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:47 PM
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15. Yeah, but he owned slaves
But I see what you mean.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:20 PM
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11. Wilson described himself as a "progressive" in 1912
And he did support several progressive regulatory reforms. However, he was also an ardent racist, even by the standards of the day.

My view of the two parties histories is this: Republicans were clearly the progressive, even radical party in the 1860s, although by the 1870s and 1880s, both parties had been captured by their pro-business, "moderate" wings. Nevertheless, if you look at the parties' positions in the 1880s and 1890s, Republicans were still the party that typically supported greater federal government expenditures, internal investments, trade barriers, etc. And although neither party did much for Civil Rights, the Republicans were clearly more sympathetic to that issue and also were generally the party that social reformers joined. Republicans of the late 19th Century were also the party that passed most antitrust legislation and whatever few regulations existed at the time.

The 1896 Election is significant because in William Jennings Bryan's Democratic-Populist fusion candidacy, for the first time, the Democratic Party became a party of active reformers and statist interventionists. The result was that lots of rural reformers and "progressives" came into the party, breaking with the party's small government, anti-statist history. However, Bryan's coalition was still very different from the classic Democratic reform coalitions of FDR and the New Deal and was even pretty different from Woodrow Wilson's coalition. Bryan's support was strongest in rural areas and the South and had a very strong socially-conservative component. Bryan was fairly opposed to church-state separation, and most "liberal" professionals and urban voters voted for the Republicans.

However, the result of Bryan's candidacy was that there was now a progressive, reformist wing in the Democratic Party. And you started to see that during Teddy Roosevelt's term, many of his initiatives actually garnered more support from Democrats in Congress than Republicans. By 1912, even a former Bourbon Democrat like Woodrow Wilson was calling himself a "progressive" and embracing some of the ideas that Bryan had proposed and also some of Teddy Roosevelt's initiatives.

By the 1920s, both parties had retreated into laissez-faire, technocratic, anti-statist philosophy. Both parties still had progressive wings, however.

My own feeling is that it was really the Depression and the New Deal that definitively turned the Democratic Party into the more progressive of the two parties. By the time of FDR's second term, northern liberals - many of them former Republicans like Harold Ickes, for example - were firmly in control, although conservative southerners were still a fairly large contingent. That meant that in the 40s and 50s, Democrats were basically an unwieldy coalition of two parties - a northern liberal party and an archconservative Southern party, which had little support at the national level but was strong in Congress. The US party system was a strange beast - Democrats basically encompassed both the most conservative and the most liberal politicians, with Republicans holding the center.

Following the '60s Civil Rights upheavals, the Johnson presidency, and the Republican "Southern strategy", the Southern conservatives joined the Republican Party, which had already grown more conservative in opposition to Johnson. Thus, the two parties had completely flipped from their original orientations.

An interesting counterfactual is this: Al Smith was basically fairly anti-statist. Had he been President in 1929, would the Republicans have ended up coming to power in 1932 and imposing something like the New Deal? That would have resulted in the Republicans being the "liberal" party to this day.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:45 PM
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14. Great post
I'd just like to add that the Republicans have always been the anti-immigrant, nationalistic party, going back to the days of Lincoln. Teddy Roosevelt was an anomaly in their history.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:07 AM
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16. If you want to take in all parts of the movement
you really should include civil rights. I think the first nominee who fully embraced civil rights, peace, and all other parts of the progressive platform was probably McGovern or Humphrey.
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