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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 01:02 PM
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Poll question: Isn't a person who physically tries to prevent someone from committing
suicide as legally wrong as someone trying to physically prevent someone from regulating pregnancy or physically forcing someone to succumb to medical treatment they for whatever reason do not want?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 01:07 PM
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1. If someone prevented this administration from committing suicide then
it would be against the code of the samurai.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 02:39 PM
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2. I think that is because people assume suicide is a symptom of not being right in the head
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 02:40 PM by wuushew
Since we are not telepathic, it shows great gaul to make such assumptions.

As self aware creatures who realize that we have finite lifespans, interfering with a suicide attempt is the height of limiting personal freedom.

Was Hunter Thompson wrong to commit suicide? Was Kurt Cobain?

How and where people choose to leave this world is really of no concern to me.


Of course many people who contemplate suicide are under the effects of chemical substances or clinical depression. A better question would be "under what conditions does free will cease and become subservient to the larger societal will?".
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:47 PM
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3. No
Many people who try to commit suicide are temporarily not of sound mind. After treatment, or even just time to think it over and heal, they again want to live and are very glad that they were prevented from going through with it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:59 PM
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4. Suicide is a totally valid option.
This reminds me of an old headline "Police Kill Man To Stop Suicide"
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:18 PM
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5. What is "regulating pregnancy"?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:22 PM
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6. causing it to be regulated


to fix or adjust the time, amount, degree, or rate of
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:08 PM
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8. There's a degree of pregnancy?
And it can be fixed or adjusted?

"My wife is SO pregnant!"

"How pregnant is she?"

"She's so pregnant, she's squeein' em out like puppies!"

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:25 PM
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10. There are "ors" in there, any of those things are regulating
but if you just want to smart off, don't worry about it.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:35 PM
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11. I'm not worried about it.
I was trying to understand what you mean by regulating pregnancy that could possibly compare to stopping someone from committing suicide or forcing someone to accept unwanted medical treatment.

I still don't understand, in part because your language is convoluted and you're trying to obfuscate your meaning.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:51 PM
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7. in some cases, yes. but in most cases no.

Suicide can be a rational best choice. But sometimes its done impulsively or under duress of mental illness.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:10 PM
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9. Agreed
Suicide is different for someone who is terminally ill and in unbearable pain than for someone who is extremely depressed and can be treated for their depression.
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