Ken Lay

[Stinky The Clown]

Poll question: Ken Lay

[BlooInBloo]

1. Dude. Real life is not the Bourne Identity.

[Stinky The Clown]

2. Dude, that would be choice "One"

[Deja Q]

3. Probably correct.

Still, it's fun to wallow in conjecture.

I can't wait for spring courses to begin; the "gloom and doom" and sensationalistic articles is something I don't mind taking a step back from.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

7. You know,

I'd have agreed with you wholeheartedly once.

And then an old friend of mine, a man who'd worked in the White House since Nixon, a former member of the NSC, the smartest man I ever knew, a true genius, told some of us that he was going to go public with his disapproval of the Iraq invasion. He had a great reputation in Washington, and his comments would have been significant.

Would have been.

This was around Thanksgiving of 2003, about six months after we invaded Iraq. Gus was adamant that we knew nothing of the Middle East and would get our asses handed to us. Also, "Hussein doesn't have any kind of weaponry." Gus knew about these things, because he'd been the CIA's man on The Farewell Dossier.

They found his body on the ground behind his Watergate co-op building. His funeral was over before his death was made public. His friends didn't know he was gone for a week, because it wasn't like Gus to neglect to return calls, and some of us finally contacted the Watergate's management office. That was how we learned our friend had "committed suicide."

Like hell.

Since then, I've watched the numbers of strange deaths - many of them labeled "suicides" - occurred among people not in synch with the White House these past eight years.

[malaise]

4. Alive

Not sure where

[NV Whino]

5. Dude...

I have no idea where he might be living, but I'm pretty sure he's alive.

[Stinky The Clown]

8. Dude ......

.... it seems only one other person chose to agree with you (9.45 pm EST) (Note, I have not voted)

[MADem]

6. Other--He's most surely dead, but damn, wouldn't that make a helluva movie!

[dysfunctional press]

10. "he's most surely dead"?

a lot of people might disagree with you on that point.

[MADem]

16. They might, if they'd like. I don't really care. I think he's dead.

And I think it would make a good movie to suggest otherwise.

[Wwagsthedog]

9. Now where is the Mrs.?

in Dallas? or any of the other choices?

[Ilsa]

12. Houston, Denver. Not sure where else they had a home. nt

[Ilsa]

11. Somewhere in the Caribbean. nt

[Demeter]

13. Marley was dead: to begin with. There is no doubt whatever about that.

...The register of his burial was signed by the clergyman, the clerk, the undertaker, and the chief mourner. Scrooge signed it: and Scrooge's name was good upon 'Change, for anything he chose to put his hand to. Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

Mind! I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country's done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

Scrooge knew he was dead? Of course he did. How could it be otherwise? Scrooge and he were partners for I don't know how many years. Scrooge was his sole executor, his sole administrator, his sole assign, his sole residuary legatee, his sole friend and sole mourner. And even Scrooge was not so dreadfully cut up by the sad event, but that he was an excellent man of business on the very day of the funeral, and solemnised it with an undoubted bargain.

The mention of Marley's funeral brings me back to the point I started from. There is no doubt that Marley was dead. This must be distinctly understood, or nothing wonderful can come of the story I am going to relate. If we were not perfectly convinced that Hamlet's Father died before the play began, there would be nothing more remarkable in his taking a stroll at night, in an easterly wind, upon his own ramparts, than there would be in any other middle-aged gentleman rashly turning out after dark in a breezy spot -- say Saint Paul's Churchyard for instance -- literally to astonish his son's weak mind.

Scrooge never painted out Old Marley's name. There it stood, years afterwards, above the warehouse door: Scrooge and Marley. The firm was known as Scrooge and Marley. Sometimes people new to the business called Scrooge Scrooge, and sometimes Marley, but he answered to both names: it was all the same to him.

[pacalo]

14. I think Kenny Boy got away with his $182 million.

Faking his death was the only way out; his crime was beyond any help his two buds in the WH could manage.

Even the arrest looked like a scam:

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Cleaning turds out of Rush Limbaugh's pool.

[Octafish]

17. Closed casket.

Did anyone see the body?



Did anyone give him a pinprick, to make sure?

[stillcool]

18. I think he's wherever he wants to be...

paling around with these guys...

The Place Where Industry, the Military and Government Converge

by Geraldine Perry
www.dissidentvoice.org/, January 12th, 2009


The Carlyle Group itself has what can only be described as a controversial history with trails leading to 9-11, the current war on terror, the first Gulf War, Afghanistan and elsewhere. It also has had extensive "counter party links" to Enron, Arthur Andersen, Global Crossing, the Saudi Royal Family, and yes, even the Bin Ladens.
Its main business is buying and selling large corporations. Described as a powerful merchant bank and leading defense contractor, the Carlyle Group also is a key player in the privatization of public resources within the U.S. Known as the ex-presidents club it is surprising to say the least that so few have ever even heard of the Carlyle Group, especially given the scope of its activities. Perhaps this is because, as an October 31, 2001 Guardian UK article tells it.
This is exactly the way Carlyle likes it. For 14 years now, with almost no publicity, the company has been signing up an impressive list of former politicians - including the first President Bush and his secretary of state, James Baker; John Major; one-time World Bank treasurer Afsaneh Masheyekhi and several south-east Asian power brokers - and using their contacts and influence to promote the group. Among the companies Carlyle owns are those which make equipment, vehicles and munitions for the US military, and its celebrity employees have long served an ingenious dual purpose, helping encourage investments from the very wealthy while also smoothing the path for Carlyle's defence firms.