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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:04 PM
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My cousin committed suicide. After 4 tours in Iraq and losing so many of his
buddies, he went to a very dark place that we are all just learning of and obviously could not cope with. With him so far away, the military obviously offered no help for him. I am just learning details and will share more as I find them out. It happened in Georgia. Obviously, everyone in our family is devastated.
I have written many times about the strong military service that my family has provided to this country.
Currently, including my deceased cousin--we have 5 members serving and several retired military.
Apparently, my cousin was writing poetry to help him cope. This is something we didn't know either.
I'm going to share a few of poems with you all and if anyone is interested in reading more--please PM and I will send you a link to his poetry.
May God rest his tortured soul.:cry:

The American Way
Can you believe, the Hypocrisy
They're selling me, so I'll believe

Our nations tragedy, to be free
That's what they're telling me, yet no integrity

Do as they say, not as they do
It's not alright for you

Why are they, leading us astray
Guess it's their American way

We've heard it all before, the knock on the door
Its time we evened the score

I can't stand your misery, your philosophy
That you keep selling me

America is in jeopardy, why can't we really see
Revealing the mystery

Corporations, yes they hold the key, to their Democracy
No freedom really isn't free

They buy their way into our destiny, plant their seed
Fueling the fires of their greed

We need to run away, pray for a better day
Yes change our freedom, and the American way


Darkness
I wanted to move forward
It's never easy alone
Yet I have no right
And am thrown to the wolves
And am
Absolutely
Completely
nothing

I just wanted atonement
Not forgiveness
Yet broken
When I'm honest

I welcome you again
This cell


American Me
White man, hate breed
Elicit worm of poverty
Lost within nothing
Dwelling conscience inside of me

Red man, ancient need
The blood of the wolf
Courses through my veins. . . entirely

Correlation coefficient
The two as one. . . reciprocity
A war of world's. . . pangenesis society

Xanthochroid animosity
Hateful for my territoriality
My blood flows red
For whom I shall be

I've no need for your Omni potency
White blood anger. . . acrimony
Will be your hanging tree
I've chosen my Indian heritage
Lifeblood. . . luminous intensity
Drives my soul. . . my destiny

Endings' Uncertain
I stand before two cliffs in time
My eyes wide open
And gaze outward on the vastness of empty space
And sense the emptiness... growing wide

I pound two stakes within the ground
On both sides of this earthen edge
And fastened a rope between them
Helpless to stop an impending outward force

The rope drew taut, unraveled fast
And I am lost within what to do
Does it matter? Should I care? Should I try?
To keep these spiritual halves together
Or should I stand... helpless

My confusion does not mean absolution
And I will not, cannot stand
Unless for something... find anything
And cast an iron chain, between

I stand between two cliffs in time
As the waters flood within my eyes
And watch as the chain draws taut
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:07 PM
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I am deeply sorry to hear about your cousin.
I can't imagine how you feel. His poem is beautiful and I'd like to read more if you'd be willing to PM me.

May he rest in peace.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:51 PM
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173. Just an update of sorts
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 10:54 PM by Horse with no Name
I am humbled by the kindness extended to my family here. Thank you all so much. It means a lot to me. Thank you for the hearts, PM's and suggestions about publishing his work.
First of all, his work is copyrighted and his son will be the one who owns this.
I, too, would love to see it published. It is important.
I am posting a picture

I am haunted by his poetry.
I've made sense of it--and the process that I noticed was the earlier poetry touted the propaganda.
As I have read through it, you can see where he started questioning the propaganda.

I've found out details that I am not ready to share yet...and honestly not sure I ever will.
I want him to rest in peace. I think he has earned that.
I am grateful for the way that our community has gathered around this soldier. And I am honored.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart.:grouphug:

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:12 AM
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176. I'm so sorry.
:(
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mecherosegarden Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:07 PM
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1. My deepest condolences to you and your family . N/T
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:07 PM
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2. Oh man, I'm so sorry
I never know what to say in these threads, but you have my sympathy :hug:
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:08 PM
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3. My condolences. What a loss. Thanks for sharing his poetry. nt
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:08 PM
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4. I'm sorry
It's unimaginable, what he had to endure. The only thing you can be sure of is that his pain has ended. For that, at least, you can be thankful.

The rest of it, ah, no words will comfort you. Suicide never ends. It is the act that kills the actor quickly and the survivors slowly.

Just try to hold on to the knowledge that he ended his pain. That will help sustain you and your family.

I am so sorry.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:11 AM
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33. Have to disagree with you.
You said, "It is the act that kills the actor quickly and the survivors slowly."

I guarantee you this "actor" has been dying slowly for years.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:31 AM
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35. Huh?
You only die once, in an instant. I was not talking about the process of dying. I know nothing of what was in the poor man's mind - and neither do you. I hope his burden was short-lived, but we don't know.

My experience with suicides, alas, has been voluminous. I wish it hadn't been so, but life has its ways. I've learned far more about it than I ever wanted to know. It is one of the most complicated acts I've ever had to bear witness to, and the reverberations go through generations. Just last year, the father of one of my partners committed suicide. As had his mother and his grandfather.

It's so hard.
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:09 PM
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5. My deepest condolences to you and your family.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:09 PM
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6. Seems his poetry was his release from the pain...
until it wasn't enough. The thoughts one gets at times like this are absolutely wrenching.

My thoughts and prayers are with your family... This young man has surely found the peace he deserved. I surely hope so.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:10 PM
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7. Did he join after 9/11
From the sound of his poetry is sounds like he wanted to do the right thing, but realizes he got caught up in a stupid war.

If he joined after 9/11 and wanted to fight Al Qaeda, then got sent to Iraq instead I'm sure that just compounded the mental distress.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:15 PM
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12. No. He has been in the military since he graduated from High School
It's been over 20 years.:(
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:11 PM
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8. I'm so sorry for your loss.
:hug:

He would have made an excellent, super talented lyricist.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:13 PM
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9. i'm so sorry
oh, i'm so sorry :cry:
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:13 PM
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10. I'm so sorry
That's so very sad. Peace to you and your family. :hug:
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:14 PM
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11. i'm so sorry
hugs and thoughts being sent your (and your family's) way at this tough time.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:15 PM
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13. I am so, so sorry
I can't imagine the pain and sorrow your entire family must feel. I am just so very sorry.

Thank you for sharing his poetry, and helping us to catch a glimpse of what he felt.

My heart goes out to you. :cry:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:15 PM
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14. Damn, just damn.

So sorry for your and your family's loss.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:17 PM
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15. I'm so sorry for your loss
I'm in Ga, and I'm familiar with a lot of the tough times our troops have when they come home.

IF there is anything I can do for you or your family, please PM me.

For everyone else, please consider checking out the local bases online and seeing the community support groups you can join to help out. You can adopt a soldier, adopt a pet, etc. It may be a small thing, but everything we can do to support them is a worthwhile effort. Just because the govt didn't do their part doesn't mean we can't do the best we can to help...


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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:19 PM
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16. I am so very sorry.
You and your whole family have my condolences. :(

Some of that poetry is compelling. It would be a wonderful memorial if it was available somewhere.

My heart goes out to you. To have so many people in your family at risk, and to have lost someone so creative and dedicated.
:cry:

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:19 PM
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17. I am Sad with you and your Family, Horse with no Name. God rest his soul.
I read your cousin's poetry and I will read it again, until I can hear his voice.
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Stargazer09 Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:20 PM
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18. I am so sorry for the loss of your cousin
It's obvious that he was in a great deal of emotional pain, judging by his poetry.

:hug:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:20 PM
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19. .......
:hug:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:21 PM
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20. I have a cousin on his 4th tour right now.
I worry about him so much. Vietnam destroyed my father.

I'm so sorry for your loss.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:36 PM
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22. Vietnam killed my cousins Dad too
Slowly--the Agent Orange did the job it was intended to do. He died at age 46.
Please--keep your cousin close...we didn't keep ours close enough.:(
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:26 AM
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34. I want to, but he never calls..
he doesn't even call his mother and she's worried sick all the time. Holidays, that's it, and he seems so distant then. Was it the same for you?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:10 AM
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31. My oldest nephew is in Iraq.
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 12:10 AM by Ladyhawk
My Republican family insists the army made him a man and that this is good for him.

Somehow I doubt it.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:26 AM
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43. A couple of my buddies have done 3 tours.
They're back for good now and another friend's brother just got his discharge and is currently at the base in Florida about to move back here. I cant begin to imagine what that must have been like. :scared:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:34 PM
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21. I am just now going through these poems so please forgive me
I want to add this one. I wish I knew in which order he wrote them, but I guess we won't know. I think he is talking about our use of phosphorous weapons in this one.

Surreal
Did you see the lights a-coming?
Or was it much too soon
Through the intense humming
Of the LIQUEFIED moon

Was the filth an intense one?
As it rolled to life
Or was it like the setting sun?
SUNKEN like a KNIFE!

Did the bodies sicken you?
as you passed the(KILLING)time
Or were you just the victim, who?
In life, CREATES the crime!

And in the end, your left no hope
Unknowing, lost, you knew not what to do
Oh, how great, the AWESOME rope
To put YOUR neck into!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:39 PM
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23. we have "known" each other for 4 years.
I feel for you like I would a friend.I hope your family finds peace.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:03 AM
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30. I share that sentiment with you
You all have been through a lot too.
Thank you.
:hug:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:45 PM
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24. Good Heavens. I'm so sorry for your loss. Those poems are heartbreaking...
do treasure them. They are part of him. I have the poems of lost loved ones too, though they didn't die in such a horrible way - it was bad enough but not like your cousin - I'm so sorry.

:hug:
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:50 PM
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25. You and your family have my deepest sympathy
May his spirit find peace and be free from the horrors that haunted him.
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:54 PM
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26. Peace.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 11:57 PM by flying rabbit
:cry: :hug: Haunting poetry. Sad
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:00 AM
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27. So very sorry! Oh how awful! Thank you for sharing those poems, they are
so powerful and so heartbreaking... I'm so sorry for your family.

Wishing you all strength and peace.
sw
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:00 AM
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28. So very sorry! Oh how awful! Thank you for sharing those poems, they are
so powerful and so heartbreaking... I'm so sorry for your family.

Wishing you all strength and peace.
sw
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:00 AM
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29. May he now find peace. I am sorry for your loss. This is what we do to the brave.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:11 AM
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32. I am so very sorry, Horse. May he find peace. n/t
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 12:11 AM by Mnemosyne
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:32 AM
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36. so very sad-
I'm sorry... words are little help.

wishing peace, comfort and healing


:hug:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:33 AM
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37. Damn.

:(

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:59 AM
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38. I'm so sorry.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:01 AM
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39. Thank you.
I hope you'll forgive if I add:

"Hatred never ceases by hatred;
But by love alone is healed.
This is an ancient and eternal law."
-- "Dhammapada," Ch. 1, the Twin Verses 5, as quoted by Maha Ghosananda

I'm afraid we are too quick to believe masters who tell us (for their sakes) that we must kill for our sakes.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:18 AM
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40. Oh god. There are no words. I hug you, Horse, I hug you.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:23 AM
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41. WHAT THE FUCK!
UNBELIEVEABLE!

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON OVER THERE?!?!?!?!

FUCK!!!!!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:24 AM
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42. That fucking sucks.
War always has a dark underbelly to it that a lot of us aren't aware of. It sucks that shit like this happens.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:29 AM
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44. I am so sorry.
:-( May he rest in peace.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:54 AM
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45. The world has lost an astounding poet


He has encapsulated this time with his precious words.


I am so, so sorry for your loss and for that of your family and his friends. May the beloved warrior rest in peace.

:cry:








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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:57 AM
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88. These words he wrote spoke of a truth...
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 09:58 AM by file83
"Corporations, yes they hold the key, to their Democracy
No freedom really isn't free

They buy their way into our destiny, plant their seed
Fueling the fires of their greed"

Emphasis was mine. That line rings true on so many levels: Lobbying, Advertising (aka "propaganda"), Marketing (credit card offers), recruiting, materialism, product placement in movies, corruption, etc...
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:15 PM
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116. The words resonated with me


Simple truth laid out.

I cried my eyeballs out to think of him struggling with the breadth of this horror of war.

Why do so many humans just not give a damn about the consequences of their greed?

His death at his own hands is certainly one of those consequences. But the warmongers simply turn away and rub their hands together over their piles of $$$$$$$$$.









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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:59 AM
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46. I am so so sorry.....
if you need anything at all........:hug:
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:09 AM
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47. I am so saddened to hear of your loss, Horse with no Name
I wish you and your family all strength.


I will not rest until the bastards responsible for all this waste are dead.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:10 AM
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48. I'm gonna tear up now, a little. Too many things to say
and yet none of them quite fit.



:cry:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:30 AM
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49. I'm so sorry for your loss.
How awful.

His poetry is powerful. I'm sure being able to express himself like that helped for at least a little while. I think you should circulate it widely - there are sure to be other wounded warriors out there who can relate to it.

I hope he is in a place of peace and healing now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:32 AM
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50. Heartbreaking.
I'm so sorry, my dear.

:hug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:40 AM
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51. Tragic
so sad
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:59 AM
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52. ............
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:14 AM
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53. I am so sorry, Horse
What an awful tragedy for your cousin, and for those he left behind.

My sincere condolences to you and yours.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:25 AM
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54. You have our deepest thoughts and prayers.


In January suicides out numbered combat deaths in the US military.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:34 AM
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55. I'm very sorry. I hope you and your family find comfort .
:hug:
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:49 AM
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56. Oh no.....
this is so sad. I hope he has found peace and I wish you peace as well.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:11 AM
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57. Tears and condolences for your loss
:cry:

If we do not see to the needs of those who serve, we cannot truly call ourselves a great nation.


Horse, may his spirit be at peace.

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:25 AM
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58. I Am So Sorry For Your Loss
and your family's loss. Thank you for sharing his poetry, he seems to have been a talented young man who suffered terribly. I don't know what to say other than I hope that he is at peace and for help and healing for you and your family during this horrible time :hug:.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:28 AM
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59. I'm so very sorry at his needless death...
For the peaceful rest of his soul, this is a Buddhist prayer/meditation that can be addressed to "all beings" or just to one. For you and your cousin and your whole family in this terrible time...


May he be peaceful
May he be happy
May he be safe
May he awaken to the light of his true nature
May he be free from suffering.

May all beings be peaceful
May all beings be happy
May all beings be safe
May all beings awaken to the light of their true nature
May all beings be free from suffering.

:hug:

Hekate


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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:50 AM
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60. I am so sorry for your loss.
Thank you for sharing his poetry. It is beautiful and tortured all at the same time.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:54 AM
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61. Damn, I'm so sorry. n/t
:hug:


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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:56 AM
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62. I am so sorry. Suicide leaves such a giant, aching hole in the hearts
of family and friends. May you and your family find peace in remembering the good things in your cousin's life and accepting that he just couldn't handle the pain any more.


As a society, a country, we have a lot to learn.

:hug:
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lenegal Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:59 AM
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63. My heart breaks for your family. My sympathies on the loss of
a true Hero. What beautiful poetry. What utter despair he must have endured. God bless.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:40 AM
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64. Oh damn
:hug:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:47 AM
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65. So sad and who knows how many times it has been repeated.
My condolences to you and your family.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:55 AM
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66. Too sad
Deepest sympathy Horse with no Name :grouphug:
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:38 AM
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67. I am very sorry for your loss.
My thoughts and prayers are for you and your family.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:43 AM
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68. I am crying for you and your pain, may your cousin rest in peace.
It is a cruel world and no-one should be made to suffer like this.

In my old age, I see the word as less of a place of wonder, more of a place to be until something else comes along.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:51 AM
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69. How awful.
I'm sure nothing I can say can even begin to touch the pain your family is in. Please know my thoughts are with you.

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:55 AM
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70. sending you all the love in the world
:grouphug:
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:02 AM
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71. condolences. how he struggled to remain sane.... we can all love him now.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:02 AM
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72. HWNN, I am so sorry. And please offer our condolences to the
rest of your family.

I wish there was some way to get this information to The First Lady. Maybe there is something she could do to get attention drawn to the problems our military is having dealing with war.

:hug:
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:04 AM
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73. I'm so sorry.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:08 AM
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74. Pain. RIP soldier.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:23 AM
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75. My deepest condolences to you and your family.
His poetry shines, his pain so palpable. After twenty years of believing in the mission it seems he felt betrayed and used. At his most conflicted, he found the truth of who he truly was and chose. My heart goes out to you, he was a deep person. RIP, warrior-waya.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:24 AM
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76. my deepest sympathy to you and your family.
heartbreaking situation that must be addressed and treated.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:25 AM
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77. My deepest condolences
There are no words that will console.

Hugs.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:27 AM
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78. .
When will we ever learn?

:cry:

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:31 AM
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79. He suffered a torture of the kind you can't snap a photo of
I feel deeply for your loss--and his.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:31 AM
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80. Horse, I'm so sorry. We've been hearing about far too much of this and it's
maddening. I would be honored to read more of his poetry.
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cate94 Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:31 AM
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81. I am so sorry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:33 AM
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82. Standing with you, Horse.
(( ))
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:34 AM
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83. My deepest condolences to you and your family, HwnN.
:cry::hug:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:38 AM
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84. I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This young man seemed to be very sensitive and intelligent as
seen in his poems. I wish the entire population could read about and know your loss.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:53 AM
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85. So very sorry
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Tommy_J Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:53 AM
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86. I'm so sad to hear of this tragic loss. May he RIP
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:55 AM
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87. My condolences to you and your family
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maxintexas Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:00 AM
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89. So very tragic...
I've been thinking about joining DU for awhile - and this post spurred me to action. I haven't made enough posts yet to allow me to send a PM, but I would like to contact the author to find out more about his cousin's poetry.
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:00 AM
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90. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Peace and strength to you and your family.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:07 AM
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91. In memoriam: Action from Veterans for Peace regarding suicides
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 10:09 AM by maryf
I am so sorry to hear about your cousin, may he finally rest in Peace. As a tribute in memoriam, some here might consider calling congress...Last I heard it was 18 suicides a day...

VFP SAYS: "CONGRESS MUST FACE ESCALATING MILITARY SUICIDES"


The United States military is scrambling to head off what has turned into an epidemic of suicides. As reported on CNN, 24 service members killed themselves in January of this year, six times as many as in January of last year. 2008 was the fourth consecutive year of increases in soldier suicides.

Veterans For Peace Executive Director Michael McPhearson said this is not a surprise to him. "It is tragic. It is the culmination of years of continuous deployments and general stress the Armed Services have been put under because of an invasion and subsequent occupation that should have never happened."

The Army Times reports that Army Secretary Pete Geren has ordered a February 13, 2009, one day halt to recruitment activities also known as stand-down of the Army's entire recruiting force and a review of almost every aspect of the job in the wake of a wide-ranging investigation of four suicides in a Houston Recruiting Battalion.

One vivid example of this equation comes from the Houston Chronicle, which reported in a May 18, 2008 that an Army investigation attributed the 4 recruiter suicides to a combination of work environment, stress and personal issues. The latest was the March 6, 2007 death of Sergeant Nils Aron Andersson who shot himself in the temple less than 24 hours after his wedding to Cassy Walton. Cassy killed herself the next day.

Veterans For Peace is asking our members to visit with their Congressional Representatives and Senators next week to discuss these suicides, that the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan contribute to the deaths and how our economy must transition from a reliance on war spending to human needs spending.

> read more on the front page of their website:

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:07 AM
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92. 4 tours.
That shouldn't be allowed, much less demanded.

My sincere condolences to you and your family.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:24 AM
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93. So very sad ...

Wishing peace and healing to family and friends who must bear this loss.

Thank you for sharing his poetry. :hug:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:24 AM
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94. I am so sorry,HWNN!
What a terrible loss!

His poetry reveals his compassion, understanding
and depth in relating to his fellow man/woman.

My condolences to you and your family at this
very difficult time.

:hug:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:27 AM
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95. Peace of mind and soul to him, to you, to all your family. He left you all
a gift.

Until the day we don't have to say the word hypocrisy.

May our country lead in peace, not in war.

Please consider publishing his poems.

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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:31 AM
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96. Rest in Peace Warrior
goddammit.
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momto3 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:32 AM
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97. I am so very sorry.
I too have a cousin, who is a marine, currently in Iraq on his fourth tour. He is also tormented. The last time he came home he could not readjust to "normal" society. We are all very worried about him.

Peace.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:52 AM
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98. condolences
I am so sorry for your loss.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:54 AM
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99. How awful for you. My deepest condolences.
And, I would love to read his poetry.

:hug:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:55 AM
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100. Fuck...
:cry:



:banghead:

:grouphug:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:55 AM
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101. Please accept my deepest condolences.
:cry: :hug:
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:07 AM
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102. I'm so sorry. What a horrible loss.
:cry: :hug:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:08 AM
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103. Oh dear God, I'm so sorry.
:hug:
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:18 AM
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104. My deepest sympathy to you and yours. I do have a question,
however, and I hope this is not insensitive. Was your cousin caught up in 'stop loss' during shrub's administration?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:20 AM
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105. heart wrenching..
:cry:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:40 AM
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106. My prayers are with you ~ my 35 yr. old cousin
returned from Iraq and he is in need of help.

His wife left him and told him to keep the adorable 3 year old girl.
It is heartbreaking but that is just the beginning.

He found a low life girlfriend and we believe they are taking drugs together.

Now he wants to give the child back to her mother even though he knows the mother doesn't want the precious angel.

He wants to stop working (great job making good money) and return to the Army!

He refuses to seek counseling and this is a good kid with an IQ of at least 140.

His father has begged him to life with him and bring the little girl with him. He doesn't want to do that either.

These stories are just the tip of the Iraq horror experiences.
Damn George Bush!

:cry:
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:05 PM
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107. I am so sorry for your loss. An uncle who was a Viet Nam vet killed himself.
They have monuments for those who died in combat. I think we need a monument for those who commit suicide after combat. They too gave their lives.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:12 PM
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108. My deepest sympathies
to you and your family.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:20 PM
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109. I'm so sorry
My love and prayers to your family.


He's one more victim of the Bush Evil Administration.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:26 PM
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110. So sorry for your loss.
Sincere condolences to you and family.

It is so sad the record number of suicides of our military for a senseless war that Bush created!

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roberto Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:00 PM
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111. condolences for this truth poet... a mess
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:04 PM
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112. I'm so sorry ...
May your dear cousin rest in peace. I wish love and strength to your family at this awful time.

:cry:

horseshoecrab
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:10 PM
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:25 PM
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117. Honestly?
I really could care less what you think.:shrug:
There is a reason I didn't post any identifying information here. It is so that the POS just like yourself couldn't find out who he was.
You have a tendency to shit on our fallen heroes--because they don't fit your definitions.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:28 PM
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118. Horse. That person is a total POS.
The people here who know and love you got rid of him and are here for you in your grief.

:hug:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:03 PM
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125. Thank you!
:hug:
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:12 PM
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114. They used to call suicide the "Cop's Disease".
Bush and Cheney have so stretched and abused this military that it may now become known as the "Grunt's Disease".

I am so sorry for your loss.

:hug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:12 PM
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115. I am so very, very sorry! *hugs*
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:34 PM
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119. I am so sad and furious at the waste and horror that are the reapings of the
amBushco years.
I ll try not to rant, but when I heard in 98 that ( * ) was gonna run for election. I was sure it would be stolen and something like this would be the result, I did not realise just how long it would go on. I did say to a bunch of friends (who have since asked me how I knew).
I was called unpatriotic for saying that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 nor did Afghanistan it was the act of madmen not entire countries. Either whether the R regime actually did it or just ignored the intell that the Clinton Administration told them about I cannot say.
I saw the stuff coming out of the neokons spew and put the pieces together.
I have had Holocaust and other survivors of WW2 and the depression all saying things that added up to this if I simply added up the parts correctly.
Then the first Gulf War did not end satisfactorily for the Bushes...
They all need to be rounded up just like their nazi predecessors at the end of WW2.
If the mass media refuses then they are just as guilty in collaborfollowup generations of the same American families that collaborated with those that started the movement that led up to the nazi horrors.
The number of good and decent folks that have died and been maimed physically and emotionally just tears me up inside.
Horse I am sorrier for what has befallen than I can possibly express.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:41 PM
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120. Sorry for your loss.
My thoughts to you and yours.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:43 PM
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121. Such a tortured and sensitive soul.There are no words that adequately convey my sadness for the loss
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 01:44 PM by BrklynLiberal
your family has suffered.
Perhaps you can publish these poems, and they can tell the story that the author could not.
May he finally find peace. :cry: :grouphug:
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mailman82 Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:50 PM
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122. I am very sorry
to hear about your cousin. May he find peace in the arms of the angels.As a Viet Nam Vet, I have fought the demons of PTSD. I did not get help for twenty two years. In 1990 i was offered out patient PTSD counseling. I took it! Because for all those years I knew there was something wrong with me 3 marriages, alienated kids, and alcoholism.
They put me on meds and it helped with intense counseling. Did the nightmares, the thoughts of suicide go away? No but now I knew there were people I could talk to. I am now 23 years sober still have thoughts, night but somehow it is better.

I also have to say this, my son is a career soldier 21 years in the Army. He has been notified that he is going to Iraq for the third time. He has also done 15 months in Afghanistan. and he is not in special forces! Some people like to throw the word coward around. I ask why did they call me hero in 2001 when in the sixty's and apart of the seventy's I was the worst kind of Marine there could be. I am not a Hero i just enlisted because I Love My country! If he Bushcos had not Fucked around with these Guys coming home now with PTSD Don't think there would be so many Deaths here at home. If you have not been in that DARK between Life and the pain of living then don't judge. Sometime when the pain won't stop and you country has said Fuck You very much. You have to leave. But trust when I say Bush sent these Brave young men to fight and Fucked them over royally. Sorry for the long rant. But no one calls my Brother a little coward. I am pissed,and I dare you to say yo me in person!
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:24 PM
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132. Why are military folks heroes in 2001 but not in 1971
"3 marriages, alienated kids, and alcoholism" That sounds exactly like my own dad, without the sobriety, though he's cut waaay back on his drinking.

Anyway, in re your point about the veneration of the military, I've noticed it, too, and it seems unlike anything that prevailed in my family, which has been career military, more or less, for the 12 generations that preceded me. The Republicans, particularly, have inflicted this bizarre military-worship on this country, a sort of veneration that borders on militarism, one that historically not prevailed in either American military culture or broader society for most of our history. For most of our history, our military was tiny compared to the so-called great powers. The division between civil and military authority was so strict that, in many cases, active-duty military were prohibited from voting. Then, in WWII, when practically a whole generation or more served, some of that changed, but the attitude did not, as service was something everyone did, even folks not in uniform or in war industries, and everyone understood that.

I think this strange attitude of veneration has come down to us from the top down, not the bottom up. The upper crust harbors some strange veneration of the military because they know no one who serves, and almost none of them have since the Vietnam era. They look at the military and think "goodness! those kids gave up a chance to start out at jobs earning $75k a year to make less than $20k a year--they must be saints!" I think that they are so out of touch with the basic economic realities of the US today that they don't understand that, in addition to patriotism, the military is a much better opportunity than those available to many people in many parts of the country.

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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:53 PM
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123. I'm so sorry.
:hug:
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:02 PM
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124. I am so sorry for your loss
and the pain you and your family are feeling. :grouphug:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:08 PM
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126. I'm at a loss for words, except to say I hope you find peace.
And thank you for sharing his poetry. One more American tragedy, among so many.
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:16 PM
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127. I am so, so sorry for the death of your cousin
My most heartfelt condolences to you and the rest of your family.

Thank you for sharing some of his poetry.
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getthefacts Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:35 PM
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128. Sorry for your loss
May God comfort your family and take care of your cousin. I dream of the day when we will need not sacrifice so many beautiful lives for the sake of war. The poems are very powerful also. Please keep sharing.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:53 PM
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129. I'm so sorry!
As others have already responded, his life,his talent and eloquence in expressing his emotions should not be lost. His poetry should be published. Your family could contact Veterans for Peace, Iraq/Afghan Veterans support groups, etc. My grandson who returned from his first tour to Iraq is now struggling with PTSD and the demons that he came home with, knowing that it will be soon time for him to return. These powerful poems may help ones like my grandson and by doing so, he lives on.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:17 PM
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130. Condolences on the loss of your cousin
He had a real way with words, and it's sad to lose anyone, but especially a talented young man like that.

I think it will be years before America fully understands all the damage wreaked by the Bush administration and its enablers in politics and the media.

I fear that many more fine young people will be crushed by the burden of what they have been forced to see and do. :cry:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:22 PM
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131. Peace to you and to yours
This is so sad. His poetry is wonderful.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:28 PM
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133. I'm so sorry for your loss
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:37 PM
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134. I'm very sorry for your loss.
(And please accept my apology for my earlier response. I get stupid mad at the wrong times sometimes.)
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:43 PM
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135. Tearing up, as I read this...his poetry is haunting...
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 04:01 PM by windbreeze
You can feel what he was going through....So sorry for him, and for your families...familiar with suicide, and had a husband who did two tours in Vietnam...I understand and feel the pain...wish a person could do something other than say...I'm so sorry...I wish we could take back all the pain and suffering we have caused...wb
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:05 PM
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136. I'm so very sorry.
My heart goes out to you and your family.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:38 PM
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137. Deepest condolences to you and your family.
A terrible loss, a terrible waste, a terrible injustice.

May your cousin now have the peace he was denied in this world.
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kenichol Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:40 PM
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138. I cry for all of us
And pray your family can be comforted.
My late husband lost both legs at Chu Lai Vietnam, committed suicide in 1998. The costs of war are too great to go to war unless it's the ONLY option left, after trying every other option.
Oh God.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:50 PM
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147. That's horrible!
:cry:
Another war based on lies and wasted lives...and we didn't even learn our lesson...

"It is time to make war Archaic"
DJKucinich
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serbbral Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:42 PM
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139. I do not know you, but I am truly sorry ........
(((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:57 PM
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140. So sorry.
:cry:
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:07 PM
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141. I'm so very sorry.
He can rest now. Stay strong.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:11 PM
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142. FUCK
I'm so sorry ..

:cry:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:14 PM
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143. another life destroyed by a trumped up illegal unnecessary war from bu$h*/cheney
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 05:33 PM by spanone
so sorry. such a waste.
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:15 PM
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144. So sorry for your loss.
:-(:-(:-(
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:31 PM
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145. Jesus, I'm sorry for you and your family.
Redstone
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freemarketer6 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:32 PM
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146. I'm sorry for your great loss. . . . . . . .......... nft
dd
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:52 PM
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148. His poetry is amazing!
You should put it in book form, or pass it on to Veterans for Peace.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:58 PM
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149. We are brothers and sisters in solace...there are no words for such wrenching moments....
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 06:07 PM by ooglymoogly
maybe a few...his poetry plays exquisitely, sometimes beautifully, but always sadly on the heartstrings....thank you for his poetry, his words will not be forgotten
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:12 PM
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150. I am so sorry
:grouphug:
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:17 PM
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151. I'm so sorry for your loss. Very tragic indeed.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:44 PM
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152. I don't have words
I am so sorry...
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:50 PM
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153. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I wish peace and healing to you and yours.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:09 PM
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154. Wow, my sympathies for your family.
No one in my family has served since my grandfather (WWII, Navy). My family does the cop/firefighter thing. But my husband's two brothers and his father all served. My two brothers-in-law served in the first Gulf War, my father-in-law in Korea.
Thank you for your family's service. And I am so, so sorry for your loss.
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Zoigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:13 PM
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155. My sincere sympathy to you, Horse
and to the rest of your cousin's family and friends. Too bad the US forces don't offer
the healing ceremonies that many traditional Native American tribes do. It might help
the returning vets balance their lives again. Peace. z
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:13 PM
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156. All my love and comfort sent your way
There are no words. Just know that we care.:hug:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:16 PM
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157. I am so sorry to hear about your cousin.
:( This sort of thing seems to be way too common, unfortunately. Lots of :grouphug:s and vibes to your family. Peace.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:43 PM
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158. Obviously your cousin was a very wise and sensitive soul.
Hugs to your family at this time.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:00 PM
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159. My heart goes out to you and your family during this difficult time. Thank
you for sharing his poetry with us so that we could see a glimpse of the struggle he was going through. I am hopeful these will give you and your family strength in the days ahead and perhaps they will open some closed eyes and minds so that people who are very close to where your cousin was can be saved.

I am so sorry for your loss.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:08 PM
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160. I'm so very sorry :( nt
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:11 PM
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161. Sorry for the loss to you and yours Horse with no Name.
Take care.
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George_Bailey Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:12 PM
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162. I'm so sorry, dude.
It breaks my heart so hear of so much hopelessness among these poor souls who never should've gotten sent into Iraq in the first place. We've all read, I believe, of the higher rate of suicides during this and Afghanistan.

Then again, there are wingnuts who keep downplaying this because these suicides like your cousin comprise only a tiny fraction of the total force. Well, I would imagine that that number looks a helluva lot larger when you lose your dearest flesh.

So, again, allow me to offer my inadequate condolences.

George Bailey
http://welcomebacktopottersville.blogspot.com/
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:15 PM
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163. ((()))
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:18 PM
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164. I am so very sorry for you and your family.
And especially for your cousin. :hug:
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onefreespiritedchick Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:24 PM
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165. I am so sorry for your loss
My brother-in-law has served over there and tells how difficult it is on everyone. My thoughts are with you and hope you remain strong through this.
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mt13 Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:25 PM
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166. i am so very sorry for this tragic loss.
nt
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:00 PM
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167. so very sad
and deepest sympathy to you and yours :hug::hug::hug:

Perhaps you can turn this senseless loss into something constructive. Send this powerful poetry to President Obama and venues with wider audiences/readers than DU... Let them all know why this war should end NOW, why BushCo should be held accountable, why corporate rule must end, how we, (the people) are not fooled by the corporatocracy hypocrisy despite the GE/Disney/Fox bread and circuses pabulum...

:hug::hug::hug:
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silver10 Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:36 PM
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168. I am so sorry for your loss
Reading his poem, he is a very deep, intelligent person. Thank you for your family's service to our country. Please be strong.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:41 PM
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169. Heart Striking News!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:58 PM
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170. May there be peace ahead soon for all of us -- especially for our soldiers ....
and their families.

And for all those harmed by these brutal and cruel wars for profit.



The American Way
Can you believe, the Hypocrisy
They're selling me, so I'll believe

Our nations tragedy, to be free
That's what they're telling me, yet no integrity

Do as they say, not as they do
It's not alright for you

Why are they, leading us astray
Guess it's their American way

We've heard it all before, the knock on the door
Its time we evened the score

I can't stand your misery, your philosophy
That you keep selling me

America is in jeopardy, why can't we really see
Revealing the mystery

Corporations, yes they hold the key, to their Democracy
No freedom really isn't free

They buy their way into our destiny, plant their seed
Fueling the fires of their greed

We need to run away, pray for a better day
Yes change our freedom, and the American way

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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:50 PM
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171. So, so sorry...
:grouphug:
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:51 PM
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172. My deepest condolences on your loss. Words just aren't enough.... n/t
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:20 AM
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174. I just hate hearing this. So sad, such a terrible loss in so many ways
I lost my dad to suicide, it is so hard on the family.

my condolences
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:04 AM
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175. Oh my God, You have my deepest, deepest condolences.
I am so VERY sorry this happened to you family because of the evil committed by a few of the most vile "people" at the top. Godspeed, his sweet spirit and may he rest in peace, poor sweet boy. Your family will be in my prayers. How much longer, Dear Lord, how much longer?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:13 AM
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177. .
:hug:

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