Have I the right to be impatient? No end in sight in Iraq. Rove not in jail.

[wake.up.america]

No impeachment proceedings... Why not?

[MannyGoldstein]

1. You Are A Republican Who Hates Powerful Women

Isn't it obvious?

[genie_weenie]

2. The carnage will go on

at home and abroad and in the end The Regime Leadership will all retire with awesome health care, huge pensions and government paid protection services...

[Bobbieo]

4. What makes you so certain the current regime is going to retire?

[genie_weenie]

7. Crap! You win...

[blogslut]

3. Hang on there

The train's coming. :)

[MonkeyFunk]

5. I absolutely mean no disrespect...

but I think people who feel that way are naive.

They don't understand our political system.

The system was designed - very wisely - to move slowly: to avoid the passions of the day.

It took us 87 years to end slavery. More than that to give women the vote. A helluva lot longer than that to give blacks at least a semblance of civil rights.

It can be very frustrating, for sure. But a system that swung wildly one way or the other with great frequency would be unsustainable.

We ARE having hearings. They're not impeachment hearings, but that's fine. You impeach AFTER the hearings. Anybody who thinks the Dems have failed because we're 2 months into their control of congress and problems still exist is probably somebody who shouldn't follow politics so closely - they're just guaranteeing a lifetime of disappointment.

[wake.up.america]

6. Perhaps you are correct. I hope they don't get away with making a mess of the contry.

[MonkeyFunk]

8. There is much wrong with the country

and there is much right with it. We need to keep that in mind.

Believe it or not, this is not the hardest trial our country has endured. Far from it, in fact. We will get past this dumbass President, and the Union will survive.

[jaksavage]

13. Union will survive?

That sounds like status quo here we go.
And on one hand you say things can't get swayed too quickly... like Bush hasn't?
I am thinking if you are one of the 102 thousand registered users your ideas might be just a tad different from this rightist/capitolist hell we have been living in.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. I don't quite understand what you're saying

Of course I hate what's happening now. But I don't think that requires me to freak out and pull my hair out and scream about how sucky the Dems are.

I've read enough history to know that while this is a bad time, it's far from the worst, and we will get through it. Many here like to believe otherwise, and I laugh at them.

Do you know how many threads there have been saying that we wouldn't even have elections in 2002, 2004 and 2006? Do you know how many threads there have been saying that martial law was imminent?

Being a Chicken Little doesn't make one a better liberal. It's quite possible to be rational and have some sense of history, and still be a liberal. I know it infuriates the more hot-headed among us, but I'm happy with my stance.

[jaksavage]

35. our situation requires a new course

not the same old one
since we are barely turning the ship
even though we are pushing hard on the rudder
I guess I would like to see more people acting up

Because we need to disrupt biz as usual
democrat and repiglican alike
society is not being served
with capitolism in charge

[Bobbieo]

10. I'm looking past American politics. I'm looking at an Iran that is bound and determined

to start WW3 that will give an eager Bush a 3rd term in office. It happened before during WW2.

[jaksavage]

15. It is not Iran

They are being demonised.
Just like the long list of past countries we have kicked the shit out of.
Oh yeah, they are on that list too...

[Bobbieo]

17. I'm also looking at a world faced with an unstoppable Global Warming.

A world that is breeding itself into extinction and destined to face
untimate starvation. Jesus, I'm glad I'm an old, old woman!!!!

[bdamomma]

22. it's astonishing we are leaving this to our children

don't they deserve better than this??

[onenote]

18. and after FDR the constitution was amended

if you think that there is any chance of amending the constitution to allow chimpy to run again within the time period in which such a thing would have to happen, I want some of what you're smoking.

[Bobbieo]

30. Who Is going to stop the Chimpy if he does want a 3rd term? Has anyone

stopped him yet???? After all, the constitution is just a God Damn piece of paper - right!!!

[onenote]

32. i've made this bet with several other DUers...

Are you willing to wager $10 contribution to DU on this. Here are the terms. If chimpy doesn't leave office as scheduled, I contribute $100 to DU. If he does, you kick in $10.

[leftchick]

20. wrong

it is bush and the neofreaks that want WWIII. sheesh.

[bdamomma]

24. Iran is not pushing this confrontation, our wicked administration has

singled them out and called them the axis of evil. now who is the aggressor???

[cali]

29. No doubt, but Iran certainly isn't helping matters.

They should just release the brits and show the world that they're correct and the brits were in Iranian waters. They're engaging in this little game of brinksmanship as well.

[bdamomma]

31. they iranians are getting testy now, but again, if had fleets

swarming in your waters, wouldn't you be a little testy? and fleets have been embarking on this for a while.

[cali]

33. Sure, but testy or not

they're playing the game too, and holding the brits, and threatening to try them for espionage is just a bullshit game that hardly advances the cause of peace.

[bdamomma]

34. hopefully this situation will be solved diplomatically by the Brits

[AndyA]

9. I think you make good sense.

And I don't have any problems with anything you said, but it does trouble me when we're told by Democratic leadership UP FRONT, before investigations and hearings even began, that "impeachment is off the table."

THAT is what bothers me. If those words hadn't been uttered, if they'd been reworded to "impeachment is off the table until we find something impeachable", etc., I would be OK. But to just flat out say it's off the table bothers me.

Why is the Democratic leadership so quick to say it's off the table? They were out of line to say that, in my opinion, and that leads me to believe they are going to try to avoid it if at all possible.

[MonkeyFunk]

14. I think it was wise

to say it was "off the table" as the Dems took office. It's unnecessary and unhelpful to have it hanging as a huge shadow over the new leadership. They had other things to accomplish, and impeachment shouldn't have been the subject of every news conference they had.

We are having hearings. Shameful, terrible things will be exposed by these hearings. Whether they lead to impeachment or not, they will do long-term damage to the republicans.

Saying it was "off the table" in January, 2007 doesn't mean it can't ever be brought back on the table.

The Democratic victory last year should not have been put forward as a vehicle for impeachment - the electorate would've found that petty and vengeful. We took control for the first time in 12 years, and it was important to present an image of a forward-looking results-oriented congress.

I know it's very unsatisfying for people who feel strongly and follow every detail of politics. But for the other 99% of Americans, success trumps revenge.

[EFerrari]

12. I disagree. Change doesn't start in the House, it starts with the people.

We apply pressure---------->politicians have to respond.

That's not naive, that's how it works.

[MonkeyFunk]

16. and the people

did start the change... last November.

I think it IS naive to say the Democrats are failures for not accomplishing what you want in 2 months, when they have a slight majority in both houses, and a Republican president.

Believe it or not, your views are not the views of the majority of Americans. We (Dems) do what we can, bit by bit, day by day. That's how our system works.

[EFerrari]

26. You're putting words in my mouth

I don't think the Democrats are failures. They got a political victory that they needed and they did that very well.

I just think they are wrong.

Careful.

[MonkeyFunk]

27. I never attributed those words to you...

I'm talking about the OP and about a thousand other threads I've seen bitching that the Dems are failures.

[EFerrari]

28. Oh, I see. Well, at least we've clarified that. n/t

[bdamomma]

23. I definitely agree with your comment, we must be more forceful

with our Senators and Reps. Some (politicians) not all are totally clueless. More pressure on them the better.

[Ghost in the Machine]

25. They remind me of the people who lambasted Bill Clinton...

... after his first year in office. He's not doing enough, blah blah blah... nothing is better yet, blah blah blah...

And I told everyone then.. "give the man some TIME! He's had one year to try to fix 12 years of republican fuckery!

Things don't happen overnight... the wheels of justice (and government) grind slowly... but methodically.

Every investigation that is happening now is just revealing more and more scandal, cronyism & corruption. Bringing these to light is what's going to bring impeachment... when the whole country starts screaming for it.

I want these criminals gone right now too... but I know, in reality, that it's going to take time...

Ghost

[EFerrari]

11. The right? I'd say, it's pretty much an obligation at this point.

:)

[bdamomma]

21. it's sickening how they keep committing crimes and are still ruining

this country and us. how much more???