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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 01:59 AM
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Do you believe there is a guardian angel looking over America?
Or do you not believe in guardian angels?? Never?

Or are we doomed to the unknown?

Who Knows?


peace All.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:01 AM
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1. I don't really think
that God would feel the need to relegate observation and intervention duties to subordinate managers along secular geopolitical lines.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:03 AM
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2. If there is a guardian angel, it has done a piss poor job in the midwest!!!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:06 AM
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4. I take that to mean...
there are no angelic forces to intervene.

We are tossed to and fro by the fates of the wind.

And that God does not know geography very well. ??
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:06 AM
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3. Where I Come From There Are No Such Things As Angels...
Just a lot of corporates looking to make a profit...that's all who looks over this country and if we're lucky, they won't screw us too bad.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:06 AM
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5. Doing what?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:07 AM
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6. Yes. It is Putin
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:07 AM
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7. Yes, and his name is Horace. And he's looking over us, and winking at Ireland.
He's hoping they'll send over a beer and Jamison's chaser.

Will he protect us if anything goes wrong? Hell, no. In September, 2001, he was too busy chatting up Canada, hoping they'd send over a Molson's and a Seagram's chaser.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:08 AM
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8. Nope.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:09 AM
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9. Why would there be a guardian angel overlooking America?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:10 AM
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10. if there is, they sure suck at it.
i do not believe in any of the superstitious mumbo-jumbo that passes for religion or spirituality or whatever anyone wants to call it.

as a society, and as individuals- we need to start worrying A LOT more about our own actual here-and-now than the great 'maybe'.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:13 AM
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11. You do put the "fun" back in dys fun ctional...
:-)___~~
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:14 AM
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12. I believe:
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 02:15 AM by snot
we can make the world better, and we have nothing better to do.

I believe (with to a lesser degree) that there are other dimensions, and it's possible that beings existing there try to help us out here once in a while.

but I believe it's best/safest for us to assume that it's all up to us: to understand the facts, come up with a plan, try to make things better, etc.

the gods have always helped those who help themselves.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:17 AM
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13. Helpful
Spirits. ?
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:17 AM
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14. If there is
It must have been slacking for the last eight years.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:19 AM
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15. Doomed to the dustbin of history, I suspect
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 02:20 AM by Blue_In_AK
like every other civilization that has gone before. It's just a matter of time.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:42 AM
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16. Angels. Feh. The notion of god is bad enough . . .
Without ancillary sprites of one level of awesomeness or the other.

And your other question: "are we doomed to the unknown?"

Well, duh, everything is doomed to the unknown. That's what makes it fun.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:27 AM
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27. It is amusing how modern monotheism condemns polytheism, yet...
monotheism has a host of "patron saints and guardian angels" to fit the bill of polytheism.

a rose is a rose is a rose is a rose...
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:35 AM
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17. I believe one can ask for one. I do. Mine might be like
Clarence on It's a Wonderful Life, but down here they come in pretty handy, bub. As a country, we sure could use one.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:47 AM
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18. Um... what? *blink*
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:02 AM
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20. snap out of it !
We are just asking a simple philosophical question, my angel and I... :-)___~~~
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:55 AM
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19. The 4 horsemen perhaps
At least the four horsemen of the apocalypse already visited America in the estimated extinction of 100 million Native Americans. That's if you count them as angels.
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bird gerhl Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:08 AM
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21. How can there be a guardian angel?
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 04:11 AM by bird gerhl
The USA is incontrovertible proof there is no God! Or at least not a benevolent God. Maybe an evil God though, who has evil guardian angels watching over us, making sure we're eager and able to do His wicked work. :)
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:38 AM
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22. You've got to be kidding me
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:43 AM
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23. No. Such a notion defies logic.
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 06:43 AM by TexasObserver
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:52 AM
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24. We are doomed to the unknown.
Of course, I wouldn't say "doomed" as it is just the way that things are. The unknown isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:24 AM
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25. Sigh...
cloaking this kind of question under the banner if it being a philosophical one is laughable to say the least.

a philosophical question would be, "do you think that the good that America does, keeps it from harm?" or "do you think that the bad that America does, keeps it getting harmed?"

saying there is a "guardian angel" falls directly with in the realms of religion.

Try again.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:26 AM
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26. Well, if there is....
he was asleep the past 8 years!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:33 AM
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28. If there is, he should be fired for being drunk on the job.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:44 AM
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29. I'm not really big on guardian angels.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:51 AM
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30. Her name is Columbia and she is a goddess - fun with US history.
Her name is Columbia and she was the literary representation of the US prior to Uncle Sam.

This virtuous goddess in a flowing robe, symbol of liberty and star of political cartoons for a century, disappeared from America's editorial pages in the mid-1950s.

<snip>

Miss Columbia emerged from the imagination of Chief Justice Samuel Sewall of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. In 1697, he wrote a poem suggesting that America's Colonies be called Columbina, a feminization of Christopher Columbus' last name.

<snip>

Miss Columbia is "a literary name for the United States," says Ellen Berg, a historian who researched the symbol's origins and popularity at the Library of Congress during a fellowship last fall with the Swann Foundation.

<snip>

"When we become the toughest guy out there, then we would go with somebody like Uncle Sam," he says. "Uncle Sam is rolling up his sleeves. He's going to go pound on somebody. All of these images only work if they resonate with the audience." more at link


Interesting to compare the lyrics in Hail, Columbia (our unofficial national anthem until 1931) to the lyrics in the The Star Spangled Banner. Let's not forget Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean as yet another patriotic song.

She pops up on many buildings around DC as well. She's also on occasion known as Justice and Lady Liberty.


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:54 AM
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31. I believe in tooth fairies, not guardian angels.
If there were guardian angels, we would have never been in this mess.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:23 AM
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32. only Guardian Angel I ever saw was that POS Curtis Sliwa
And I think we all know who Curtis is looking out for.

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