Should corporations have the right to tell people what they can and can not do in their own home?

[ZombieHorde]

Poll question: Should corporations have the right to tell people what they can and can not do in their own home?

For example; should Olive Garden have the right to tell their employees they are forbidden to drink alcohol when they are not at work?

[OhioChick]

1. How about a "hell no" option? n/t

[ZombieHorde]

11. Even if they play baseball? nt

[OhioChick]

19. Their game will only suffer the next day....

or are you trying to bring up the steroid issue? :shrug:

[ZombieHorde]

22. I am bring up the steroid issue. nt

[OhioChick]

23. I always believed that sports and the Olympics and such

Should be based on skill alone.

[Control-Z]

64. Hell no

is my first and last thought on it.

[Avalux]

2. Seriously?? Did this happen?

That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard if true. :shrug:

[havocmom]

5. I believe Ford sent inspectors to employees' homes, back in the day

to check on lifestyle, healthy diet and such. Of course, he was pretty much a fascist, same as many corporate leaders now.

[ZombieHorde]

7. The example I gave was invented by me.

[Avalux]

12. Oh ok.

It's not that implausible though; corporations pretty much run this country and our lives as it is.

[TahitiNut]

29. At least one company in Michigan PROHIBITS their employees from smoking at ANY time.

It's a condition of employment ... and they're fired if they're shown to be smoking by blood test. They're even considering prohibiting spouses of employees from smoking.

[ZombieHorde]

46. Fucked up. nt

[barb162]

48. Gee, I wonder if they have a drinking rule too.

I would consider blood tests invasive as hell.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

53. Smoking what?

:hide:


















BTW: I know your talking about cigarettes :dunce:

[Donnachaidh]

3. No, but you should be responsible enough to NOT go into work

if you HAVE been drinking and you might just be required to submit to a drug/alcohol test. Which is what this poll is about, I take it?

[Lady Effingbroke]

4. Not just no, fuck no!

[timtom]

52. EXACTLY what I would've posted.

(Good thing I scanned first.)

[annabanana]

6. They buy our labor for their 8 hours.. and that's what you

should be expected to deliver.. no more, no less.

[PM Martin]

8. No way in HELL!

[ZombieHorde]

9. What about professional sports players?

[smalll]

10. Of course not! Unless the employees are dirty SMOKERS!

Then firing's not good enough for them! They need firing, plus robustly regressive taxation, plus public shaming. Also, take their kids away from them. Because of the third-hand smoke. Right? :shrug:

[steelmania75]

13. What kind of poll is this? I don't want my bosses telling me what to do

And I also don't want the bosses who started the crisis telling their employees what to do.

[ZombieHorde]

16. Its a pro-steroids poll. nt

[BlooInBloo]

14. Betcha you'll get a different response if you specify "smoking".

:rofl:

EDIT: Because there's nothing non-smokers love more than telling smokers what to do.

[ZombieHorde]

17. Or if I specified "steroids". nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

15. My employer has very concrete rules about if and when I can drink when I'm not at work.

So I guess it depends on how that behavior can affect the employer.

David

[ZombieHorde]

18. Are you on-call?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

24. Every 3rd week. They have rules for when I'm not on call also.

[ZombieHorde]

28. "They have rules for when I'm not on call also."

What do you do? (fire medic?)

What are the rules?

How do you feel about them? Would you rather not have those rules?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

31. I'm a Fire Captain and a Paramedic, I'm not allowed to drink within 8 hours of coming to work.

I understand the point of the rules. It's not that big a sacrifice. I guess if I was an alcoholic it might bother me.

David

[drmeow]

20. Certainly pilots are not allowed to drink

a certain number of hours before they go to work.

[MercutioATC]

21. Yes, but those are really to ensure that you're not drunk at work.

I'm an air traffic controller, so I have similar rules.

Making me abstain from alcohol for 8 hours before working to be sure there's no alcohol in my system when I report for work is a lot different than telling me I simply can't drink when I'm off duty.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

27. I agree but,

I can easily have 1 beer 6 hours before coming to work and have absolutely no alcohol in my system.

David

[lumberjack_jeff]

61. Depends. A company has a general right to employ whomever they wish.

... provided it doesn't violate law or any preexisting employment contracts.

i.e. The DNC should feel within their rights to not employ people who donate that salary to the RNC, IMHO.

An employee has a right to leave that employer.

* unless we're talking about the military.

[gmudem]

25. It's different for sports.

Playing in the MLB is not like being an Olive Garden waiter. Olive Garden is not a competition.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone else argue that steroid use is a privacy issue, so I guess your opinion is interesting in that way. If they want to take drugs that don't affect their performance then I would agree with you, but since steroids clearly do affect performance they should not be legal and I hope the MLB increases their crackdown on them.

If you were a big sports fan like many of us are, you would understand. But you're letting you're non-sports opinions cloud your views and you are just dead wrong here and it's not even debatable.

[ZombieHorde]

32. "Olive Garden is not a competition. "

Olive Garden is in competition with other restaurants.

so I guess your opinion is interesting in that way.

I'll take this as a compliment. Thank you.

you're letting you're non-sports opinions cloud your views

I feel pro-sports opinions are causing the clouds. I think people forget sports are just a game, like checkers.

it's not even debatable.

Then how are we debating it?

[gmudem]

38. Because you're providing the stupid opinion.

So I feel obligated to respond to it. Olive Garden is in competition with other restaurants sure, but are you aware of some kind of performance-enhancing drugs waiters and waitresses are taking? I'd love to have that information.

Who's forgetting sports are just a game? I know they're just a game, and I'd like everybody playing them to be on a fair playing field. If people are taking steroids, then that is not fair. It's really pretty simple.

If the players want to smoke up imbetween games, then I couldn't care less. But weed doesn't make them play better and steroids do. It's a pretty simple concept.

[ZombieHorde]

43. What is the worse that could happen...

What is the worse thing that could happen if we allowed baseball players to take steroids?

performance-enhancing drugs waiters and waitresses are taking?

If I knew, there is no way I would tell you. No offense, but you may try to make it illegal.

[ipfilter]

60. Steroids take a toll on the users health.

There's a whole new generation of youth playing baseball right now. My son is one of them. I don't want him to feel the need to inject horse drugs to compete just because everyone else is doing it. Those who take steroids to gain a competitive advantage are cheating. When an entire culture of doping exists in a sport, those up and coming athletes must use the steroids to have any chance of advancing to the higher level.

[Maine-ah]

54. lol, as a waitress/bartender

I'd like to know as well. :evilgrin:

[flvegan]

26. I know your point, and I agree somewhat, but you need to change your qualifier.

Alcohol is legal. Changing it to "...forbidden to snort cocaine when they are not at work" would be more appropos.

I think the whole steroid issue is the most hypocritical pile of shit I've ever heard. It's a ghost chase, and not worth our time.

[seabeyond]

30. add the word smoking in there and the poll should change... n/t

[MrSlayer]

33. No.

It's none of their business if I want to do heroin or shove a snake up my ass.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. I Knew It!

I KNEW you were an ass snake shover upper!

:rofl:

[anonymous171]

34. No. But they can fire their employees if they come to work drunk.

[Phoenix-Risen]

35. Kinda depends on your employment contract doesn't it?

Pays to read the fine print.

[ZombieHorde]

47. Hence the should, as opposed to could. nt

[Change has come]

36. Fuck no!

:mad:

[ContinentalOp]

37. Should an employer forbid me from stealing their clients, selling trade secrets, etc...

if I do it on my own time from within my own home?

[ZombieHorde]

45. I thought about this very thing when I was making my poll, but I did not know how to

address it.

[Muttocracy]

39. what if I rent instead of having my own home?

:shrug:

[bkkyosemite]

40. Hell no! Wonder why 1 person voted yes ..............

[prairierose]

41. I was looking for "HELL NO" as an option... n/t

[rvablue]

42. Please, let us all in on your little allegory. Me thinks this is about the 2nd ammendment

am I right?

[ZombieHorde]

44. Worse, its about steroids. nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

49. How would the 2nd Amendment be involved?

[ZombieHorde]

63. I am just guessing, but the poster could be refering to the teacher who was fired over a photo with

a gun on a web site such as facebook or myspace. Just a guess.

[jmg257]

50. Of course not. But they should be allowed to screen for illegal substances that

can impact performance, affect safety, or hurt the corporation's image.

Employee handbooks & policies usually cover these, banned substances, and other such unacceptable actions.

[Cleita]

55. They have no right to tell you what you can do when you are off the clock or

where you can do it. The only thing they have a right to demand is that you show up for work able to work, than means sober, showered and dressed in whatever dress code they may have.

[Romulox]

56. The "logic" of the War on Drugs suggests that they do. nt

[Skidmore]

57. Four ....4... people have responded "yes" to this?

Are you series!11!!!11

[Quantess]

58. They probably just really like the Olive Garden.

;)

[ZombieHorde]

62. Just to be clear, I made the Olive Garden example up. As far as I know, they have no such rule. nt

[snooper2]

59. So, I have an NDA- so if I'm at home...

and others in the same industry are hanging around the back yard- I can't talk about certain things...


Same concept eh :)

[LSdemocrat]

65. No, but given how lousy labor laws are in this country, it's not surpising that some companies do