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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:09 AM
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So I was in Kohl's on Saturday and saw what was self described as an American Icon
It was Fiesta Ware

You know the stuff. Highly collectible and recently reissued. Originally made by Homer Laughlin. And still made by Homer Laughlin right here in the USA





They now make flatware to compliment it.



But the flatware isn't made here.

On the boxes (I cannot find an online picture of them) it says, on the top front, next to the distinctive trademark "Fiesta" script are the words "An American Icon".



On the back of the box, at the bottom, it says "Made in China".







.... kinda like all those flags we can buy around the time of the July 4th holiday, I guess ..... :eyes:










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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:12 AM
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1. I have Fiesta Ware--have only broken one plate and one bowl
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 11:16 AM by TwilightGardener
after almost 17 years, the rest have no chips--it's restaurant-ware strength, almost indestructible. Love the cheerful colors and the Art Deco design. Sorry to hear that the flatware comes from China--that's a letdown.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:23 AM
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7. if yours is that old
beware the lead content. I only bought mine in the last 7 years after they made it lead free. I love it except for the grazing that occurs.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:27 AM
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8. Well, it's been lead-free since at least 1992, because my pieces say "lead free".
I do have one of their disc pitchers from the thirties/forties, however--I don't use it for liquids.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:38 PM
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18. that is good to know
I guess I am getting old. Well I know I am, a decade seems like a year to me now. :crazy:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:40 PM
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20. I hear ya. The years are a-flyin' by since I was a new bride with my new dishes.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:30 PM
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17. red pieces before ww2 contained uranium and lead
lead was taken out of fiesta ware several years ago.

i`d be more concerned about the amount of lead the chinese are putting into off or no brand name dinner ware they are shipping to the usa. i checked out some plates from a nothing over a dollar store and the plates must have weighed 3-4 lbs. god only knows how much lead those plates contained....well maybe they were glazed cement...
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:12 AM
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2. OMG
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 11:13 AM by librechik
you really got my hopes up there for a minute.

Sigh.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:13 AM
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3. It's crazy - sometimes I wonder if we make anything here anymore. n/t
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:38 AM
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9. no we don't.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:08 PM
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29. Yes, some things....here:
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:15 AM
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4. I have the reissued Fiesta Ware.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 11:17 AM by madaboutharry
They are my everyday dishes. I really love it. But, I am disappointed about the flatware being made in China.

These dishes are amazing. I have had one broken cup and one broken plate in 18 years. I have kept adding different pieces and colors over the years.

I really believe that the fact that we don't make anything here anymore has had a great deal to do with the disaster we are now facing.
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remoulade Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:16 AM
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5. So the box ----------disregard
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 11:18 AM by remoulade
How odd...
Oh sorry I misunderstood at first.

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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:19 AM
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6. I grew up with it. - glad to see it come back
nt
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:41 AM
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10. Hmmm...
Never used Fiesta Ware before. Too poor to buy any this month - maybe we can check it out after payday. But thanks for the heads-up on the silverware.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:48 AM
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11. Nice Spanish word. !!!
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:08 PM
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12. China coming from China? LOL n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:40 PM
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19. "LOL"
Clearly YOU don't read well and comprehend even less.

LOL

But **nice** try .....

:eyes:
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:02 PM
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28. I read clearly...
I just thought it was funny/ironic that the Homer Laughlin China Co. had stuff made in China, that is all.

Why are you raining on my funny.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:23 PM
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31. Fighting the constant ankle biter wars .....
Sorry I misunderstood ......

Accept a cyber umbrella and a genuine smile :)



See down below for a fine example of ankle biting by an accomplished ankle biter.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:30 PM
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33. No problem...
That red umbrella makes those plates! Very festive!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:19 PM
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13. i have a collection of fiesta pitchers and bowls
i have`t seen any old stuff in the local thrift shops in years. i guess everyone is still hanging on to their pieces
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:28 PM
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16. Old Fiesta is not thrift-store cheap, it's antique-mall pricey (at least for certain colors).
A little silly, because you can buy new for a reasonable price.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:21 PM
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14. If it's from China how do we know it is lead free? n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:41 PM
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21. It is not from China ..... only the flatware is .... as was stated in the OP
Comprende?
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:43 PM
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22. Si Senor Stinky n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:23 PM
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15. So Everything But The Silverware Is Made Here, And You're Griping?
:eyes:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:45 PM
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23. Let me try this REAL slow for you ........
.... I wouldn't want to upset you .... what with your moods and all ......

The issue is the irony in their use of the words "An American Icon" on the packaging for their made-in-China accessory flatware.

But you knew that because you don't have a reading comprehension issue. So that must mean you just wanted to poke some eyes with your little stick.

Have a nice day and hurry back to play again soon. :hi:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:48 PM
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24. The Point Is Beyond Petty.
They are an american icon. They've produced products for countless years right here in the US. Now, as a VERY small makeup of their product line, they have some silverware made in china. Taking a position that the company no longer has the right to consider itself an american icon based solely on its chinese made silverware, is beyond irrational and petty.

There's not any irony in their packaging whatsoever. A company that makes tons of products that has caused it to become an american icon, does not cease being an american icon merely because one small part of the product line is made in china. This is one of the most ridiculous poutrage threads ever. :hi:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:54 PM
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25. Erm .....
.... it seems that it is you who making mountains of molehills.

Reread the OP ..... no hyperbole or poutrage .... just an eyeroll.

Nice try with the stick poke ...... try again another time. :hi:

And speaking of beyond petty .....
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:58 PM
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27. It Was One Of The Most Nonsensical Reasons For An Eye-Roll I've Seen.
And yes, an eye roll like that in the context it was in might as well be poutrage. It's whiney wah wahhhin while acting all bitter shmitter towards the company because GASP, their silverware is made in china LOL

It's so friggin stupid what passes for legitimate gripe here sometimes.

Again; nothing ironic whatsoever about the use of american icon by their name. Since that's the main point of the thread, that's my main position. :hi:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:20 PM
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30. *That's* your main position?
Wow. Whodda thunk that?



Oh .... almost forgot: :hi:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:56 PM
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26. yes, STILL made in america!
i love my fiesta ware.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:27 PM
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32. Well I was glad to see
that my own dinnerware (Corelle) is still made in the USA.

As far as I can tell.

Don't know yet if it's lead-free, although it probably is, being glass and all.



I would love to have a set of Fiestaware, though.

It looks so....festive. :7
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:45 PM
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35. Corelle is and always has been lead free .......
It has no glaze, which is where the lead resides (afaik)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:33 PM
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34. I have one of their original water pitchers and I adore it. It's good to know that the stoneware
is still made here!

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:47 PM
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36. Check into your pitcher .....
Some of the old Fiesta (with the name molded in, not printed and then glazed on) has harmful glazes and may even be radioactive. I'm not sure which and what colors, but I am certain it can be found on the internet or is DU's own collectors forum.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:50 PM
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37. It's turquoise and a few years back was worth about $100. I bought it at a yard sale in the Hamptons
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 01:51 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
on Long Island. I have several collectible water pitchers... a few Halls and a Russell Wright (ugly but valuable chartreuse) I Love the Deco shapes!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:54 PM
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39. I love them, too. We have some by Halls that were made for various refrigerator manufacturers
My comment about you Fiesta piece was to its safety. You may want to be sure the glaze is lead- (or uranium-) free before using it.

(Deco is our favorite style .... most of our house is furnished with it)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:17 PM
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40. A fellow Hall Collector, cool! I don't use any of them and they decorate the top of my kitchen
cabinets (a very safe place to be). Thank you for letting me know! A few of them were made for refrigerators. After I wrote my last post I visited eBay to look into Hall. There is a teapot of theirs I've been coveting for years. The Airflow. The one I like (mint and Cobalt)is unbid on and is at $49.95 opening bid price. I can't afford it now. Those used to be scooped up for over $100. There is one with a drop of missing color in teal that is unbid on at $9.95. I sold a beautiful Hall Aladdin Teapot on Ebay which I picked up at a tag sale for about $20. It sold on eBay in the high $90s. The Aladdins on Ebay right now are very low in price. When one has to place food on one's table, collectibles are the last thing one is buying.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:52 PM
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38. So the only thing they don't make in China is China.
:crazy:
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