With California tanking, why no calls for a recall of Schwarzenegger ala Gray Davis?

[Postman]

What? Only Democrats get recall elections?

[niyad]

1. well, darrell issa IS a repuke, so guess he won't finance a recall against one of his own

[Johonny]

18. You were suppose to vote for Darrell Issa

but Arnold came in and stole his thunder

[Mz Pip]

23. I remember Darrell's press conference

when he stopped campaigning. He was in tears.

The Governor's job was supposed to be his. He paid for the recall so he felt entitled. I'm surprised that he never learned that there is no honor among thieves. As a Republican he should have known that as soon as he put his money on the table.

[rvablue]

28. Not really a sound argument as there are probably more Dem multimillionaires in CA

then there are anywhere in the country.




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[dkf]

2. Can't they recall some of their Reps or whoever is blocking

the bill?

[dynasaw]

17. I Want to String Darrell Issa

up by his balls. Same for David Cocks, er, I mean Cox.

[dkf]

20. Well this whole things tells me its not CAs Gov which is the problem...

its the legislature.

[Initech]

3. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Just do a Google search of the first recall election - that thing cost the state a SHITLOAD of money.

[EFerrari]

I forgot about that. You're right! n/t

[Initech]

22. The really pathetic thing too is that it was nothing more than a partisan power grab.

See - the repukes want CA's 55 electoral votes and they'll take extreme measures like this to get them, of course they go about doing this in the same way that Wiley Coyote tries to chase the Road Runner. Cant blame 'em for trying. :popcorn:

[EFerrari]

24. That part I remember. That and running off Kevin Shelley when he went after

the voting machine criminals. They almost pulled it off, too, didn't they?

[ronnykmarshall]

27. We lucked out on that.

The GOP that replaced him wasn't too bad .... and NOW we got DEBRA!!!! :bounce:

[EFerrari]

29. He was no one to bring home to dinner. I remember him fighting hard

against election reformers -- doing things like having public hearings without notifying the public.

But, NOW WE GOT DEBRA! Whew! :bounce:

[BrklynLiberal]

4. No millionaire conservatives around that would back that recall!!!

[fascisthunter]

10. Americans are Slaves to Classism... if you have wealth, you have Freedom and Power

to take away freedoms. That should be the Republican Mantra from here on out. Economic Elitists.

[BrklynLiberal]

40. Did you ever hear this one:

"LIFE IS A SHIT SANDWICH AND THE MORE DOUGH YOU HAVE, THE LESS SHIT YOU HAVE TO EAT"

[fascisthunter]

44. no I haven't, but now that I have...

it fits.

[Ezlivin]

5. Because that would be "Total Recall"

[Earth_First]

8. Ba-ZIIIING! n/t

[Initech]

21. Is the chick with three boobs involved this time?

[Tesha]

31. No, she was "Terminated", much like California's democracy. (NT)

[Earth_First]

6. I don't think they could AFFORD (literally) a recall right now... n/t

[blm]

7. Well...who controls most broadcast media, friends of fascists or friends of democracy?

Answer that and the last 20 plus years is better understood.

[Motown_Johnny]

9. Ummm.... Because..... He'd be back !?!?!?

[SoCalDem]

11. Why waste the money we don't have? he's out soon anyway..n/t

[ProgressiveProfessor]

19. That is the correct answer

Any recall now would be purely symbolic. By the time they could get one going, he would be termed out. It would do nothing to help the current problems.

[Ecumenist]

12. I want the son of bitch recalled yesterday!!

The major problem now is that there's no money to finance a recall. The best thing I can hope for is his ass any other repub is beaten in the next election like they stole something!

[EmilyAnne]

13. They certainly couldn't afford it, that's for sure. n/t

[Jack_DeLeon]

14. Probably because it would be a waste of money...

and screw the budget even more and cause more people to be laid off.

[Hannah Bell]

15. Because the very rich, who fund & push such efforts behind the scenes, are happy with him,

& with the current situation.

[Captain Hilts]

16. Like some of the presidential ratings...it's style that counts, not substance. nt

[Still Sensible]

25. While Arnold has been far from perfect, I don't know

how much of their economic crisis can be laid at his feet. Californians, thanks largely to republicans like Reagan and Pete Wilson, have crippled the ability of their governor and legislators with government by referendum and passage of some of the most restrictive "all-taxes-are-bad-so-we-won't-let-you-raise them" laws you will find anywhere.

Not to absolve the Governator of his share of the blame, some of what we are seeing there is similar to what we are seeing in other states right now. In Kansas for instance. In both places we see moderate governors facing fiscal catastrophe being held hostage by ideologue republicans that see this crisis as a chance to strangle spending for social services, which has been their goal for half a century.

[Ecumenist]

26. OH but StillSensible, I humbly disagree with your premise..

and beg to differ; If California, ( and I'm a native girl, born and bred) had been allowed to recover the monies STOLEN and DEFRAUDED from it by Enron, we would be nowhere near the mess we're find ourselves staring at now. arnold had a secret meeting with Cheney and a few other criminals in LA. He put a stop to a lawsuit that had been brought by Cruz Bustamante that would have gotten the BILLIONS that were stolen, back. In fact, it is widely believed that that was the real impetus behind the recall, not some trumped up charge of malfeasance against Grey Davis.

[Still Sensible]

35. Thank you for the additional info

One question though... since Enron basically went belly up, where would the money have come from even if the state managed to get a judgment in its favor? Did anyone that got screwed by Enron recover anything significant? If I recall correctly, Enron went bankrupt in 2001 and Arnold didn't become governor until fall, 2003. By the end of 2003, I don't think Enron had much in the way of assets left, did they?

I still contend that California's government by referendum--at least on some significant fiscal issues--puts a straitjacket on legislators and governors.

[Ecumenist]

37. From what I understand, there were machinations, ie, Depositions, etc

on and just when that lawsuit was due to be prosecuted, BOOM, recall. Enron may have gone belly up BUT those billions had been siphoned into the accounts of a few cronies at the top. Unless I miss my mark and am completely wrong, monies had been frozen in some sort of escrow account to wait for the outcome of the judgement.

[Retrograde]

30. yes and no

his big problem right now, IMHO, is that he can't get his own party in line behind any realistic budget. The runaway referendum process does play a big part, though, with propositions specifying certain funding even when it's not there.

If there's a recall, I think it should focus on select Republican legislatures (I'm looking at you, Mr. Issa, for starters).

[ColbertWatcher]

33. "how much of their economic crisis can be laid at his feet" All of it; he's governor.

If he cannot handle the responsibility, he shouldn't have taken the job.

The Great Aryan Hope™ was involved in several shenanigans prior to the recall that set this mess up.

If he was a real leader and not a poseur, he'd step down.

But he isn't and he won't.

[Ecumenist]

38. Preach it, Colbertwatcher!!!

:applause: :applause:

[ColbertWatcher]

42. Damn right I will! Fuck the GOP. I hope the party dies a miserable death. n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

32. I wish he'd resign.

Then we'd get a good democrat in office !

[ColbertWatcher]

34. The GOP are pushing Meg "I ruined eBay" Whitman to take his place. n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

36. GAG!

[BlooInBloo]

39. An interesting question, which can only be answered by the Cali electorate.

[steelmania75]

41. Because the GOP likes picking at scabs until they bleed, and they still keep picking them!!!!

[Initech]

43. It's like trusting a compulsive gambler with your lottery winnings.