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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:06 PM
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Chrysler asks for another $5 billion . Hey CEO - GO FUCK YOURSELF.
The salaries of these executives are outrageous. They better not get one more dime.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/17/news/companies/auto_plans/index.htm?postversion=2009021716
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:07 PM
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1. i want my first 5 billion
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:08 PM
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2. I'm at the point where I say let these companies go bankrupt.... Instead of pumping...
good tax payer dollar after bad into these poorly run companies, shell a whole bunch directly out to the employees and it would probably save a bunch of tax dollars doing it. I don't see Toyota and others holding out their hands for bailout money... Just my opinion...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:12 PM
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4. GM has enough in their pension plan to buy the Co.
I bet Chrysler could too seeing how low the stock prices are.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:37 PM
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10. You don't see Toyota with their hands out because....
they go to their country's government for bailouts or unfair trade policies.
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:09 PM
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3. Chrysler is being run by Nardelli
Who almost ran Home Despot into the ground.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:12 PM
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5. What I'd love to hear from The Office Of The President...
"Any requests for funding unaccompanied by a list of executive concessions will be summarily ignored."

Not gonna happen, I know. But DAMN I'd love to see it.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:19 PM
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6. Why did Cerebus (sp?) buy Chrysler from Mercedes?
Wouldn't we be better off? It sure would have been less expensive for U.S..
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:31 PM
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8. yes and cerebus "owns" about 50% of gmc`s mortgage business
chrysler needs the loans for this.... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123245224622497573.html

people want small fuel efficient cars well here`s a good start
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:26 PM
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7. what does the salaries of executives have to do with keeping americans working
it`s amazing how people are willing to throw tens of thousands out of work because they think the executives get the money.

oh well, fuck the unions and the american auto workers...they can all work for 10-12 an hour a be thankful they get that much.
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:33 PM
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9. Auto workers get no sympathy from me
What makes them so goddamn special? I've been out of work since July and have many friends and family members out of work. The point is, the Big Three were poorly managed and not interested in new technology (until after the fact) and giving them even more money is ridiculous.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:41 PM
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11. oh, what compassion you have for others
:eyes:
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:44 PM
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12. I have plenty of compassion for those who deserve it...
...and not merely by virtue of being an "auto worker."
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:46 PM
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13. What makes auto workers unworthy of compassion?
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:08 PM
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15. That is not what I said. Nice try.
If an auto worker loses his/her job, I feel bad for them. However, I don't feel their job is any more valuable than anyone else's and they do not deserve special consideration. I'm sick of hearing so many people argue that we have to bail out the auto companies because we don't want the auto workers to lose their jobs. I don't understand that reasoning when millions of others, who worked for companies who were poorly managed or caught up in the housing downturn or were driven into the ground by greedy CEOs and on and on, have lost their jobs. What's the damn difference? You lose your job. You're a casualty. You hurt and then heal. You go on with your life.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:38 PM
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19. That's EXACTLY what you said
"Auto workers get no sympathy from me." In case you don't know, sympathy is a synonym for compassion.


We're talking about an entire INDUSTRY going under. The government is part of auto company's problem so why shouldn't they help fix it? Our crappy trade policies. The fact that we force our companies to pay for health care when other countries provide it for all citizens. These are problems that our government has burdened the auto industry with and puts them at a disadvantage when compared to foreign companies. If you don't think the US auto industry going under would affect then you are mistaken. It would push our already suffering economy from a recession to a depression. The fact that people are willing to put their hatred of the auto companies in front of doing what's best for the country is beyond me.
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:57 PM
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20. It doesn't really matter if...
...the American auto industry survives, it's all going in the crapper anyway. All the bills, rescues, bailouts, etc aren't going to be able to prop it up forever. And propping up any FAILED industry or corporation is NOT what's best for this country.

Again, the reasoning is ridiculous! "The government is part of auto company's problem so why shouldn't they help fix it?" Thanks to government deregulation, you could say that for 90% of companies that are in distress and laying off people or closing right now.

PS - Thanks for the grammar lesson!
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:15 PM
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22. My reasoning is ridiculous?
Oh please. You contradicted yourself in previous comments within minutes of the separate posts so I don't put too much value on your opinion.

"It doesn't really matter if the American auto industry survives."

Oh really? If you really believe that then you don't have a clue. Thank goodness Obama is our president because he does know how important the American auto industry is and will not let it go under.

P.S You're welcome :)
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:35 PM
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23. Yes, it's ridiculous.
I have more of a clue than you do if you believe the American auto industry is the cornerstone of America. Give me a break!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:48 PM
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14. i bet you`d say the same thing about me when i lost my union job
in 1979 and in 1992. ya it was goddam special to have a job that paid a decent wage,good benefits,and rights that were protected by a contract. i`ve been out of work for three fucking years cause i`m to old and in the way. oh ya...my daughter is laid off because those goddam special guys ain`t working...ya she does`t deserve that 14 per hour she made.

good old democratic solidarity with the union workers sure is lost when things get tuff don`t they
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:11 PM
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16. And some could, would and should say the same about California.
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:13 PM
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17. And I would agree! n/t
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:16 PM
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18. Good Riddance to a crappy company
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steelmania75 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:58 PM
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21. Why can't he spend his own money, lol
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