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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:47 PM
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Beyond the pale: anti-gay, racist emails from Army recruiter
http://alternet.org/blogs/peek/49778/

Beyond the pale: anti-gay, racist emails from Army recruiter

Posted by Pam Spaulding at 12:58 PM on March 26, 2007.

Pam Spaulding: "Go Back to Africa and do your gay voodoo limbo tango..."


"GO BACK TO AFRICA AND DO YOUR GAY VOODOO LIMBO TANGO AND WANGO DANCE AND JUMP AROUND AND PRANCE AND RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE HALF NAKED THERE."

-- U.S. Army recruiter Sgt. Marcia Ramode, using her military email address to respond to Jersey City resident Corey Andrew, after Ramode learned Andrew was gay.

Is this the General Peter Pace policy at work?

Corey Andrew had his profile and resume posted at Careerbuilder.com, and it caught the eye of Army recruiter Marcia Ramode, who contacted him. He wasn't interested in a position in the military, particularly because of the ban on gays and lesbians in the military.

When Andrew informed Ramode that he is gay, and believed that the DADT policy was wrong, the two engaged in a three-day email exchange that included statements by Ramode, in her official capacity as a recruiter, that boggle...

... the mind. (Jersey Journal):

After more prodding from Andrew on the Army's recruitment policy, the messages escalated into a bigoted tirade. For example, Ramode told Andrew that "being gay is disgusting and immoral."

…Steve Ralls, a director of communications for the Service Members Legal Defense Network, which helps victims of discrimination under the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy, says Ramode should be fired.

"The recruiter's remarks were outrageous and offensive in almost every way," Ralls said. "Anti-gay harassment throughout the military is well documented but this is particularly egregious because the recruiter's language is so homophobic and racist."

Andrew forwarded the emails to SLDN, and, well, it blows your mind to see the calibre of people now being allowed to recruit. This is completely unacceptable, and stains the reputation of those wearing the uniform. Can you believe this brazen filth was sent out under a military domain as official business communication
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:51 PM
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1. I'm not surprised.
There are bigots everywhere. The military has more than their fair share.

I don't think much will come of this. The military pays lip service to being against racism, but they don't even bother to pretend that they care about GLBT people. As long as Sgt. Ramode makes her numbers they'll look the other way and probably promote her.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:51 PM
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Discrimination is never acceptable. Gay people pay taxes. So do Black people. These people work for US.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:28 PM
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18. Bitch is sexist
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:37 PM
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19. Bitch is a female dog. n/m
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:37 PM
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20. Still sexist
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:42 PM
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23. .
:eyes:
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:44 PM
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25. Figured out the double-standard yet?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:53 PM
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:14 PM
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29. Self delete
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 05:16 PM by foreigncorrespondent
Posted wrong area.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 11:27 PM
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33. "discrimination in never acceptable"
says the guy using gender slurs.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:00 AM
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36. Ain't it a bitch.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:06 AM
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37. "Go Back to Africa and do your gay voodoo limbo tango???"
SOUNDS LIKE FUN!!! :D



:rofl:

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:32 PM
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38. Rhumba, Ibo and Kizomba, too!
Let's take the recruiter on a world tour. No one can resist the rhythm of life! :D

Is James a massage therapist? I swear he looks familiar.

You so funny, Swampy. :rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 03:19 PM
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39. Totally bitchin'!!
:bounce:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:51 PM
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3. I guess some people can't help themselves. I hope this recruiter loses her job.
Good thing the guy kept the emails.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:52 PM
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4. Who wants to bet...
That Marcia Ramode will be promoted and given a nice, safe desk job state-side?
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:24 PM
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15. After which she'll have a radio talk show or a gig on fox.
:eyes::puke:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:55 PM
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5. not only should she be fired, she should court marshalled
and made an example. Her being a Native American doesn't give her license to lose her fucking mind like that with someone not interested in being recruited because of the military's tactics regarding gays. If he's from New Jersey, then he's where he came from--he was born here, not Africa, just like she was.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:27 PM
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17. Spelling Nazi here: I'm sorry, but it is "court martial", not "court marshall".
'Martial' of course referring to the military.

Sorry, again. It's a pet peeve. :-)
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:48 PM
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30. thanks... typing too fast
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:57 PM
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6. Bush will hire her as his next Attorney General. She'll fit right in.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:59 PM
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7. I'm sorry, but she is just way to descriptive for me to not think she dreams
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 04:09 PM by Rex
about being in Africa and doing her own version of the Wango Tango dance, half nekked and having the time of her life. Someone give her a plane ticket and dancing instructions STAT!
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:02 PM
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8. K & R
This is just appalling.

My tax dollars are paying this weirdo's salary?

Fire the bitch and no pension.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:03 PM
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9. Absolutely disgusting.
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 04:06 PM by Starbucks Anarchist
:puke:
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:04 PM
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10. miss thing's email address is in the email.
http://alternet.org/blogs/peek/49778

marcia.remode@usarec.army.mil

just sayin.....
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:52 PM
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32. Oddly enough, it doesn't work any more...
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

marcia.remode@usarec.army.mil





Reporting-MTA: dns;AC0HQBECL01V.RSN.AAC.USAREC.ARMY.MIL
Received-From-MTA: dns;emh13.usarec.army.mil
Arrival-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:08:36 -0400
Content-Type: text/plain

Final-Recipient: rfc822;marcia.remode@usarec.army.mil
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:rofl: :rofl:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:06 PM
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11. How the hell does an illiterate buffoon get to be a goddamn SERGEANT?
:eyes:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:12 PM
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13. If you stay in long enough, you will become a sergeant.
It really doesn't require a lot, you memorize a few things and spit polish your shit for a few months. Any moran can make E5. You get to see who is the shitbag and who isn't by how long they stay an E5.

Hey if you think that is bad, NCOs are a million times better than the officers they service. Talk about shitbags! LTs are dam near worthless when they arrive at their first duty station.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:15 PM
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14. Yeah, I know all that, it was mostly rhetorical.
Hell, I worked with some Majors and Colonels who were about as bright as a used flashbulb. :grr:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:27 PM
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16. That is what made me leave, watching the Brass act like CEOs
at a business meeting. The ass-kissing was just way too much, even to watch. I said, 'screw this', these guys don't have a clue and got out.

People like that get you killed.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:08 PM
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12. I'm surprised she hasn't been given a gwb43 email account.
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 04:20 PM by tk2kewl
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:40 PM
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21. By regulation, she should be in deep shit
however,Bush will probably give her a medal of freedom
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:41 PM
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22. absolutely lovely!
:eyes:

:puke:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:43 PM
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24. I just wanna know how to do the "tango wango" dance.
My dancing sucks. Maybe I'm not really gay?!

Other than that, this asshole can go straight to hell.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:48 PM
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27. I like the Wango Tango dance! She didn't even get THAT right!
By Ted Nugent.

Wango Tango

All right! It's zee Wango, zee Tango
1-2-3-4
Come on boys
Time to Wango

My baby she like to rock
My baby she like to roll
My baby she can dance all night
My baby got no control
She do the Wango Tango

My baby she can scream and shout
My baby she can move it out
My baby she can take a chance
My baby got a brand new dance

Wango Tango
Wango Tango
It's a Wango Tango
Ooooh yeah! (oooooh..)
Baby!

My baby like to rock
My baby like to roll
My baby like to dance all night
She got no control
She do...

Wango Tango
Wango Tango
Wango Tango
Ooooh yeah! (oooooh..)

Yeahhhhhhhhhh!
Baby! Baby! Baby! Ooooh I like the way you look baby
You look like you're made for me honey
If you wanna take a little chance
I'm gonna show you a new dance
Baby I gotta Wango down one time with you honey
I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it
Well, it's a brand new dance
Yeah been sweepin' the nation
I said a brand new dance
A rock 'n' roll sensation
Yeah I like it baby, I do it every night
I got to do it 'cos I like it so much
Oh honey believe it baby
You see it's a crazed gyration of the rock generation
It's my motivation to avoid the nauseation, frustration
When I need some lubrication - Baby!
Kinda like, goes kinda like this
You take her right ankle out
You take her left ankle out
You get her belly propped down
You get her butt propped up
Yeah lookin' good now baby
I think you're in the right position now baby
Yeah but if you ain't quite ready I'll make sure everything is a little bit nicer 'cos
I'm gonna get a little talcum
I'm gonna borrow it from Malcolm
Yeah you look so good baby I'm startin to drool all over myself
I got the droolin', droolin', get all wet, salivate, salivate
I got slimy legs, slimy legs, slimy legs
Got slimy, slimy, slimy, slimy, heh heh heh
Yeah you look so good baby, I like it, I like it, I like it
You know what I been talkin' about honey
It's a nice dance, we gotta a nice dance goin' here
Now what you gotta do, I'll tell you what you gotta do
You got to pretend your face is a Maserati
It's a Maserati
It's a Maserati
It's a gettin' hotty
It's a Maserati, Maserati, Maserati
It's a fast one too man, that thing's turbocharged
You feel like a little fuel injection honey?
I'll tell ya about it, I'll tell you about it
I'll check out the hood scoop
I gotta get that hood scoop off, shine and shine and buff
I gotta buff it up, buff it up, buff it up, buff it up, buff it up,
Yeah, shiny now baby, heh heh heh
You've been drivin' all night long
It's time to put the old Maserati away
So you look for a garage, you think you see a garage
Wait a minute, Hey!, there's one up ahead
And the damn thing's open
Hello! Get in there!

Is my baby alive? (Is my baby alive?)
Is my baby alive? (Is my baby alive?)
Is my baby alive?
She Wango'd to death

Wango Tango (Wango Tango)
Wango Tango (Wango Tango)
Wango Tango (Wango Tango)
Wango Tango (Wango Tango)
Wango Tango
Wango Tango
Wango Tango
Wango Tango
Wango Wango
Tango Tango
Wango Wango Wango Wango
Tango Tango Tango Tango
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 04:46 PM
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26. That is disgusting and hateful
and really makes me feel sick. :puke: x(
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:49 PM
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31. Wow, just wow
n/t
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 11:48 PM
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34. You absolutely need racist recruiters to recruit for a racist war... if you don't want
racism... then the US would have to end its affinity for imperialism.
US foreign policy would be changed beyond recognition.
The US would have to treat other nations, even in the global south, as equals.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 12:06 AM
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35. Well, it's the government's official opinion on the subject.
Honestly, I don't think I ought to have to pay taxes based on this and this alone. It's not taxation without representation, no- it's taxation without participation. I'm taxed for the military to be, but I'm a priori 'morally' disallowed from joining.

That can extend to the termination from my current job for that reason and that alone. Chewing on that leaves a bitter taste.

Parents kicked me out for it, then ended college for me on top of that. Can't get married, either- and some people here think I shouldn't be able to, but something else is okay.

:cry:

Does it end?? Seriously.

Ever?
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