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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:57 PM
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I know!! I know!! Let's have NO government!!
Crazy Republicans...I actually just had this conversation with a right wing wacko neighbor of mine. We'd been talking about the pros and cons of forming a neighborhood watch (I'm against it, small town, low crime rate, regular police patrols), and somehow, we got onto the subject...well, you'll see. Mind you, I'm paraphrasing, but this is pretty much how it went.
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Wacko: So, you see, if we do away with all taxes for businesses, all regulations for businesses, and only tax the middle class and the poor (you know, to fund the military), then, we'll FINALLY be free of the liberal menace to the American way of life!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me: Well, what about government, then? We only have a military?

Wacko: Of course we'd have government. There has to be someone to tell us what to do when we're attacked.

Me: I see. So, as long as we have a military to protect us in case we're attacked...

Wacko: WHEN we're attacked!!

Me: Okay...and the military is directed by the President, and Congress does...what? What the President says, or...

Wacko: Right! Like the Constitution says!

Me: Well, actually, Congress...

Wacko: We don't need big government - we just need enough to keep things, you know, American.

Me: American?

Wacko: Sure! Who do you think creates jobs? Mexicans? The French?

Me: ...You're a Bill O'Reilly fan, aren't you? Because he think we should have, really, no government at all, the way he describes...

Wacko: That's why we're having this recession! Clinton let all of these foreigners in and they took good jobs away from real Americans!

Me: And this caused the current recession?

Wacko: That, and 9/11 did.
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I know, it makes my head hurt, too. I was saved by my cell phone (which I had earlier been cursing for ringing), and thankfully got away from him at that. He didn't seem to hear a thing I had said anyway, other than keywords, like "America" or "Congress," so it's not like we were actually conversing...

I guess my final thought on all of this is simply that it scares me to consider the type of America some of our fellow Americans see as the REAL America...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:00 PM
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1. They get that they're actually dreaming of Somalia.
Basically, they want everything to work without having to pay for it. Fiscal responsibility is NOT a Republican quality although they keep claiming it like they would recognize it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:00 PM
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2. Funny thing is - I actually agree with this - SOMEWHAT
Yes, no government should be every culture's goal

HOWEVER, we need to evolve before we can have that reality

I think one of the biggest things Marx put forward was that Anarchy should be the goal of Homo Sapien

BUT, this is after many things are taken care of

We won't see it, our grandkids won't see it, our grandkid's grandkids won't see it

But someday, millenniums from now, they will have it
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:04 PM
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4. What you'll end up with then is Feudalism
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:08 PM
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5. Today, yes
thousands of years in the future, maybe not

I see this as Man's goal

Life in a world without government

Today, that is impossible - and yes, it would result in feudalism

But Marx predicted a conditioned future where man could rule himself
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:02 PM
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3. If it gets bad enough, everybody can just stay at home & not do anything for a while.
Except listen to NPR to find out how much worse it's going to get.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:18 PM
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6. Is the Wacko rich?
Because if they aren't, ask why not. That person is actually advocating for a regressive taxation system on those deemed "unworthy", so I'm wondering what led to that person being among the "unworthy", since they're so smart, and all. Hope you followed that. :) I just find it amazing how many people are willing to vote against their own best interests, in order to reward the Masters of the Universe.
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