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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:46 AM
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MSNBC showed Obama arrival in Ottawa. I'm thrilled and embarrassed to learn
that the Governor General is a woman who was born in Port au Prince, Haiti. I am thrilled to see a Black woman in such a major position, and embarrassed that I didn't know it!

I really need to read more world news. :eyes:



http://www.gg.ca/gg/index_e.asp
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:48 AM
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1. You're actually embarrassed that you didn't know that?
You must embarrass easily.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:55 AM
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8. i should have know that!
1) Canada is the country next door
2) I try to pay special attention to the accomplishments of women.

So yes, i'm embarrassed.

I humbly seek the forgiveness of Canadian DU'ers. :D

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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:06 AM
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13. thank you

I've posted in LBN with a link to coverage of Obama's visit, also something a lot of people south of the border don't seem to be even aware of. And mentioning that I'm looking forward to pix in the international press of Jean and Obama together -- the new face of our parts of the Americas.

The response has been underwhelming.
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:50 AM
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2. didnt want to rain on the 'america-is-so-progressive' parade after the election
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 10:51 AM by lxlxlxl
Yep, FEMALE, Brilliant, Hatian-born, and billingual. I thought about bringing this up when I heard all the "Only in America' stuff last year, but its ultimately irrelevant.

She wasn't elected, and her position is primarily symbolic. That said, she is incredibly popular, respected, and Canadians didn't blink allowing her to represent the country.

Canadians don't brag as much as the should really.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:50 AM
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3. I didn't know either. I was wondering if that was Susan
Rice or something walking next to him. Wow! Thanks for the link.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:51 AM
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4. Canada's GG is the rep of Canada's dictator for life - Elizabeth Windsor.
She shut down Canada's democracy late last year at the behest of Ms Windsor.

Even Venezuela doesn't have a foreign dictator for life. ;)


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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:56 AM
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9. Why do I get the feeling you're something of an
anti-royalist, Mika? :evilgrin:
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:50 AM
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20. I was surprised to read that it takes the OK of a GG to open or close parliament
I thought Canadians took the reigns away from royalty in 1967 when they reflagged their independent nation. Turns out that the Queen's rep still has authority over their elected "representative" body :shrug:



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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:00 AM
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12. Thats not true.
She granted the Prime Minister his request to shut down Parliament so he could have time to rework his budget (and avoid his government falling). Essentially, Harper just called the shots and she symbolically signed off on it. "At the behest of Ms Windsor"? What the fuck planet do you live on?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:07 AM
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14. Guy probably hates Corgis, too...
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:08 AM
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15. why do I get the feeling you are so ignorant you should be ashamed to speak in public?

Her decision to prorogue Parliament was, in myinformed opinion, wrong.

The decision was made at the behest of the Prime Minister of Canada.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:45 AM
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19. But the GG has authority to do so? From where does this authority come? Is a GG elected?
I know I'm an uneducated American, and I spend near zero time understanding Canada's system, and the interaction of British royalty in it.

Can you please explain how a GG has authority to shut down parliament (even if it is at the request of the PM, just why/how does the GG have authority to do so)?

Thanks.


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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:32 AM
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17. Queen Elizabeth has no such power.
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 11:50 AM by sarge43
She's Canada's head of state and it's purely symbolic. She has no say in how parliament conducts its business. If it chooses the Canadian parliament can declare Canada a republic tomorrow.

If you're going to be an anti-monarchist, suggest you at least learn how it functions.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:52 AM
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5. and her predecessor was a lady from Hong Kong!
Awesome! :)
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:53 AM
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6. Do you know any of the other Governors of Canadian Provinces?
:shrug: I don't, nor do I know most Governors in our own country.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:57 AM
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10. Oops...
they have Premiers, not Governors to lead the provinces.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:10 AM
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16. well ...

We do have Lieutenant Governors. ;)

They're the provincial counterparts of the Governor General. They sign off on stuff.

Ontario had a black Lt. Gov. some decades ago, btw.



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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:58 AM
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11. well, this is the Canadian head of state.
I may forgive myself for not knowing the names of Governors of the Canadian provinces and many US states. But head-of-state? No excuse!

Bad bad shireen!

:banghead:
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:09 PM
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18. Not really...
Technically yes, but for all practical purposes the Prime Minister is the head of state and runs things, and the Governor General just hangs out and signs off on anything put in front of them.

As long as that situation continues we let the position keep existing, because it really doesn't hurt anything, we always get along fine the Brits, and I suspect the average Canadian would think it was unnecessarily rude to get rid of them for no reason (we tend towards politeness). If the Governor General ever started trying to actually tell the elected members of the government what to do day to day however the position would be pretty much gone overnight. But they don't, so everyone gets along fine.

Bottom line, you should know who the Prime Minister is... it's really not so important to know who the Governor General is. Hell, I'm Canadian and I'm usually completely unaware of who's in the office at any given time.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:54 AM
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7. If interested,
listen to Canadian radio broadcast of his arrival (and see Golden Retriever puppies.) My friend's site.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/shayla-%26-her-golden-retriever-puppies
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