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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:15 AM
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How the New York Post Monkey Cartoon Should've Looked (Huffington Post)
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:17 AM
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1. self delete
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 11:50 AM by wryter2000
Dumb, dumb, dumb me.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:18 AM
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2. Not with the new caption. nt
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:49 AM
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15. Smacks head
Nevermind. :evilgrin:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:19 AM
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3. Now that's funny!
:rofl:
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:19 AM
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4. Wow,that is poignant. I hope this will be seen by enough people
to erase the nasty taste of the original.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:21 AM
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5. I hope Olbermann picks this up! NT
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:22 AM
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6. Agreed.
Damn, it really is poignant.
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serrano2008 Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:25 AM
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7. Right...but the difference is there is no room for interpretation here.
There can only be one meaning here. Chimp is NY Post racist cartoonist.

In the original cartoon, chimp can be interpreted multiple ways but it is a stretch to say the chimp in the original cartoon is Obama.

Remove the KKK hood from the chimp above and you'll see how interpreting the original cartoon as racist is quite a stretch.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:33 AM
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9. I don't think it's a stretch at all to see it as anti-Obama racist filth, and worse.
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serrano2008 Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:44 AM
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11. It could really go either way on the original cartoon.
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 11:54 AM by serrano2008
That's the point.

ANY OTHER WEEK the original cartoon would have ran I would agree that it is making more of a racial statement.

But THIS week when an out of control chimp was shot by the cops it is a perfectly OK comparison to congress and the Stimulus Bill that some people think is out of control.

Now, on this cartoon at Huffington Post, there is no ambiguity. Cops shoot KKK chimp who is cartoonist for NY Post.

Remove KKK hood and it's exactly like the original cartoon. You HAVE to add that blatant racist depiction of the hood in order to have the meaning of the cartoon be racist.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:48 AM
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13. when Monkeys/Apes/Gorillas have been used to represent African-Americans in racist way...
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 11:48 AM by LynneSin
throughout the centuries.

It's offensive.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:47 PM
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25. True, but they've also been used to represent stupid people of any color.
Anybody remember the term "chimperor"? Calling Bush a monkey--or editing images of him to appear more simian--was not exactly uncommon, and carried no racial overtones whatsoever.

But before anybody jumps me accusing me of siding with the cartoonist, I am not. I think he most likely intentionally drew it to work on two levels, one racist and one arguably innocent. But because one meaning is arguably innocent and we can never prove his intent, there's not much we can do.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:31 PM
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21. It's only a stretch to the willfully obtuse.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:40 PM
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23. THANK YOU!!!!!
What an insufferable ass!
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Wildewolfe Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:31 AM
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8. ummmm...
shouldn't the mask be on the officers and not the chimp for it to explicitly convey the racist intent?

The reworked cartoon is like putting a KKK mask on the Pres.

Maybe I'm missing something
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:33 AM
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10. You are missing the point. NT
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Wildewolfe Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:45 AM
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12. quite likely....
hence my question...

I find the original cartoon very offensive. The reworked cartoon just leaves me scratching my head. Maybe I'm taking it too literally.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:49 AM
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14. The captioning explains it
they're saying the racist that was shot is the NY Post cartoonist that made the original cartoon
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Wildewolfe Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:02 PM
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17. Ahhh... Ok I got it now... Thank you.
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:50 AM
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16. That is funny
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:06 PM
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18. That's not funny
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:12 PM
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19. hahahaha DEAD CHIMP hahahaha SHOT BY COPS hahahaha IT'S THE RACIST CARTOONIST
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 12:12 PM by KittyWampus
hahahahaha

if only the original cartoon or the altered one could have worked in woman with her face and hands ripped off too. Then it would have REALLY made me laugh.

:puke:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:25 PM
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20. Yay! We've reduced ourselves to their level of humor.
What a victory! :eyes:
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:35 PM
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22. I don't get why people are upset over this
Obama did not write the stimulus bill and actually wasting our money in useless stimulus packages began with Bush.



ooh ooh eee eee?

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:44 PM
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24. Yes, because rich white guys have been racially stereotyped as monkeys for
decades.

:eyes:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:05 PM
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26. very good
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:08 PM
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27. No, no, no, no...
It may be the hardest thing you or I have ever done, but we HAVE TO START ACTING non-violently about all of this...

OR... IT... GETS......WORSE
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