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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:42 AM
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wow. Fred Phelps BANNED from the UK!
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 11:43 AM by Mari333
A homophobic American cleric who runs a website called God Hates Fags has been banned from Britain by the home secretary, Jacqui Smith.

Fred Phelps had vowed to come to Britain with his daughter Shirley to picket a school play in Basingstoke, Hampshire, promoting tolerance for gay people. The play, The Laramie Project, depicts the murder of a homosexual teenager, Matthew Shepard, in the Wyoming town in 1998 and will be staged tomorrow evening at Queen Mary's College.

Phelps, who runs the Primitive Baptist Westboro church in Topeka, Kansas – most of whose congregation are members of his family, including his 13 children – has bought a small plot of land in Laramie on which he plans to build a memorial celebrating the murder, despite local opposition.













http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/19/britain-bans-us-cleric
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:44 AM
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1. I was wondering if the British Gov. would let them in.
Wish we could ban them.............
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Wildewolfe Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:47 AM
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7. Yeah...
I was almost betting they would deny him entry. Good for them.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:49 AM
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11. I wish after he gets on the plane, and is denied entry to the UK
He's found on a Terrorist Watch list in the US, and denied re-entry.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:44 AM
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2. can you blame them? I wish we could boot him out of our country
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:48 AM
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9. Shit, I wish we could boot him off of the planet!
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:44 AM
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3. Sometimes it pays to be an Island...nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:44 AM
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4. BTW if I lived in Larmarie I'd build a wall right on the perimeter off of Phelps land
to hid his hatred
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:57 AM
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16. Phelps owns land in Laramie?
When did he buy that?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:16 PM
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21. From the article......
Phelps, who runs the Primitive Baptist Westboro church in Topeka, Kansas – most of whose congregation are members of his family, including his 13 children – has bought a small plot of land in Laramie on which he plans to build a memorial celebrating the murder, despite local opposition.

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Last time I checked one of the 10 commandments was "Thou shall not Kill" so why would Phelps celebration someone who was killed?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:42 PM
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24. OMG those poor people in Laramie!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:14 PM
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26. "Primitive" Baptist?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:46 AM
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5. Hey, can we do that too?
Ban him from the USA?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:47 AM
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8. aww its that accursed first amendment...
:)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:58 AM
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17. I'd love to ban him from Kansas
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:12 PM
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25. I'd like to find a very deep hole
and drop-kick that scumbag motherfucker into it.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 08:01 PM
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36. But then someone else would have to take him
Sorry, but you keep him. With my luck, he'd move to Fayettenam...and we already have James Lancaster.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:46 AM
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6. GOD HATES FISH & CHIPS
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:48 AM
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10. LOL
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 11:50 AM by Mari333
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:17 PM
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22. Only if the Fish is Catfish, that's considered a scaleless fish
Which is what the bible finds as an Abomination.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:18 PM
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23. Catfish are yummo
But not to be used in fish & chips
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:53 AM
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12. When I first saw your headline I thought it was Michael Phelps.
I thought "damn, it was just a few bong hits!" But now I see who they're talking about.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:53 AM
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13. It's not like they were really coming anyway
I suspect they had no intention of travelling to the UK: they simply claimed that for the publicity. They've done this before, with other destinations. Quite what they get out of this, I don't know, other than feeding off the resulting hate.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:54 AM
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14. I think he's banned from entering Canada, too
He tried to sneak in to protest at the funeral of the guy killed on the bus.

We sent him packing.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 08:26 PM
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38. Yes, his band of terror-makers was refused entry into Canada last year.
No one seems to remember that. No other country wants them on their own soil, but in the US they are considered a protected species.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:56 AM
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15. How does this idiot get his money to support his insanity?

Plus he has his followers that don't seem financially independent.

Anyone know?

Good for Britain though
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:59 AM
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18. He files lawsuits
Nearly every adult in his family is an attorney. Many have been disbarred but a couple still practice law and if you drive by him and cross your eyes, he sues you.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:02 PM
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19. Thanks... I thought maybe he got his monies from
the typical right wing millionaires.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:05 PM
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20. He could have some wealthy donors too
I have never heard that he does though.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:50 PM
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31. Most of his followers are his family; most of them are lawyers (nt)
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:31 PM
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27. Laramie has got to have zoning laws/board......they have a responsibility to stop this
even if it means tying this fuck face up in the courts until his money runs out.

I've seen this troupe up close and personal. They are disgusting, hateful, vile human beings.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 03:13 PM
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28. Only thing I can think is to build a small wall around whatever he creates
this is a joke that he would be allowed to build this. Hell why not just let the KKK put a statue of a burning cross in the middle of a town square. I realize this is all free speach but shouldn't the voices of the majority have some say in what they want and not want cluttering their town?
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:26 PM
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29. That's a fantastic idea and maybe it could take the shape of .....

....angel wings!



I'm sure you've seen these folks before...they show up with huge angel wings on and stand in front of the vile, disgusting signs that Phelps and his family brandish.

At the event I went to, they were there. Silent, elegant, gracious. When you tried to speak to them, they didn't want to talk. They were solemn but steady.

So, great idea!!!...build a wall around their disgusting hate...in the form of angel wings!!!08)



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SeeHopeWin Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:46 PM
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30. 5th rec for the good news....nt
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 05:03 PM
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32. I think Spooks(or MI-5 as its known here) should do an episode based on this guy
IIRC they did one on a pro-life extremist from the US ben on causing trouble in the UK.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 05:08 PM
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33. Can we ban him from the US? Which country would take him? The Vatican?
Just a thought. :evilgrin:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 06:00 PM
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34. "celebrating the murder" -- CELEBRATING THE MOTHERFUCKING MURDER!?!?!?!
I'd celebrate this fucker's murder.

I'd carry it out if I had the skills.

Pity that someone hasn't.

Yet.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 07:57 PM
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35. a memorial celebrating murder?!?!
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 07:58 PM by noiretextatique
phelps and his Klan are completely deranged. kudos to britain for banning the lunatic :toast:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 08:09 PM
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37. Why? Because he thinks God hates cigarettes?
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 02:50 AM
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39. Damn! Because if he'd got in and tried his tricks here
He would have been arrested for inciting hate crimes, I believe. Of course he would only have been deported, but the idea of him "doing time" excites me.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 02:31 PM
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40. As disgusting as he is, he deserves his rights of free speech.
Granted, what a foreign country does with respect to its visa entry requirements is their prerogative, but here in the states, I am against any law that diminishes an individual's right to freedom of expression (even if their words and ideas are as blatantly insane as Phelp's).
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 02:50 PM
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41. I agree with Britain's
decision he has no right to protest there. But this highlights one of the things I find least progressive about European countries, in general, is there tendency to restrict free speech in the name of "tolerance". Earlier this year a Dutch MP was charged for "hate speech" becuase he wrote an anti Muslim book and comments. It's much better to have these people out in the open.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 03:00 PM
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42. Exactly. other than inciting public violence
there should essentially be no infringement on free speech. Hell, even slander and libel lawsuits are extremely difficult to win (as they should be).
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