Michael Eric Dyson

[dem629]

loves to say a bunch of words without really saying anything. What is it with people who think that the more words you use, the smarter you sound?

:puke:

[MadBadger]

1. I think the puking should go to the racist hes facing off against

[dem629]

5. There's enough to go around. No doubt.

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

2. My roommate is black and can't stand hearing him talk either. nt

[EraOfResponsibility]

3. Sometimes Dyson is pretentious

Well ok, most times, but if you listen close enough, there is a good message in his words..somewhere. LOL

[dem629]

6. LOL

[GOPNotForMe]

4. Michael Eric Dyson has important things to say.

But he's not always right. I hated his book about Bill Cosby.

[dem629]

7. A Communications 101 class might help him.

[Hissyspit]

39. He's an academic.

He probably is not conditioned or very fond of being asked to dumb things down.

[my2sense]

8. seems MSNBC had technical difficulties ONLY when

Dyson was speaking. Not once when Pukanan was speaking. But I'm sure that was just a coincidence :sarcasm:

[dem629]

10. Were they both on satellite? I changed the channel.

[MadBadger]

12. No, Pat was in the Studio, Dyson was on satellite...but that doesnt matter to the conspiracy people.

[my2sense]

14. Defending Buchanan - that's all I need to know

[MadBadger]

17. Actually, I would be defending Hardball

[MadBadger]

18. Oh, and go read post #1

[MadBadger]

11. Oh for fuck sake, They were in two separate locations

It makes perfect sense that only one site would have technical difficulties. If your going to accuse Hardball of being racist through technical difficulties, then your crazy.

[my2sense]

13. When you have something to say other than personal attacks get

back with me. For now you may kindly fall off cliff.

[MadBadger]

15. Ah yes, the typical "I'm wrong but I'm gonna hide behind the "He said something mean to me!" respons

lol

[Vinca]

9. I'm sure he's a very smart man, but he gives the impression

of liking to hear himself talk.

[EFerrari]

16. Dyson is brilliant. Maybe you should listen again. n/t

[me b zola]

19. I love him

But I think that he may be intimidating to some.... ;)

[EFerrari]

21. Yep.

:)

[dem629]

20. I have better things to do than listen to a self-important blowhard.

He and Sarah Palin would be impossible to listen to if they were on a show together. Neither understand the basics of communication.

[EFerrari]

26. I don't even know how to respond to that. n/t

[dem629]

27. What's new?

[EFerrari]

31. I do have a suggestion, though. Maybe you have a friend who can

listen to him and translate into one syllable words for you. Then perhaps you might be able to figure out why Buchanan is an ignorant bigot and why Dyson is beloved and sought after by people with functioning frontal lobes, by hosts from Charlie Rose to Bill Haher to Bill Moyers and what you have been missing all this time.

[hiphopnation]

38. i'm afraid it's not going to do any good

hating dyson was a foregone conclusion for this one...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. Just what is it you dislike about Michael Eric Dyson?

And why do you consider him on par with Buchanan's recent racist rant?

[dem629]

23. Link to explanation:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5092125&mesg_id=5092125

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. So why the double standard?

You like to use words that really don't mean anything. Pseudointellectual pap like "racialist."

So what's the difference between you and Dyson?

Hmmmmm.

[dem629]

25. I've explained this already, but I'll do it again.

Just so it's clear: It's not about individual words. It's about using a bunch of words to cloak the fact that there is no coherent point to anything you're saying. That is Dyson in a nutshell.

As for the word "racialist," aside from posting the definition (which didn't help you) and suggesting that you look it up yourself (which apparently hasn't happened yet) I can't do much more of the work for you.

[MadBadger]

28. I think everything he said had a coherent point.

I thought you were arguing that why say something in 20 words when you can say it in ten. He says it in 20, but what he says still makes a coherent point.

For example, did you see what he said about the reason why blacks have black churches?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. I'm asking about the double standard.

I'm wondering why you're criticizing a black guy for going on at length without having a coherent point when you yourself are doing the same thing, and in fact repeating yourself.

I'm aware of your definition of the word racialist. Dyson's a professor of African American studies, so it makes sense he's interested in racial issues. Why you've chosen to use the word "racialist" and as a perjorative is beyond me, as is why in a fight between Dyson and Buchanan, you've chosen to criticize Dyson.

[leftyclimber]

30. I think the difficult thing with Dyson

is that he tends to use the jargon of his field even when he's speaking to a non-academic audience.

My first thought when I read your post was, "Hm. He makes perfect sense to me." Then I realized that of course he did, because I use similar jargon in my line of work.

It's a good reminder to members of any profession that even though we've been trained in the language of our particular field most of the rest of the world isn't. It's our job to cross that barrier.

That said, I think Dyson is a frickin' genius, and I'm always excited when he comes on TV because I want to hear what he has to say. I missed him this time because I was watching the local news. Guess I gotta catch him on the Hardball repeat in an hour or so...

[EFerrari]

33. Dyson doesn't talk down to people and that's mistaken for something else.

People like me who write poetry love listening to him because he's all the time synthesizing the lexicons of a bunch of different cultures. I guess it gets to be too much if you don't like words.

[leftyclimber]

34. He doesn't talk down. I agree. And I like that about him.

Then again, I'm a social scientist, so I don't think twice about what Dyson means when he uses the language of sociology, which is what I figured the OP was talking about.

I'm also a fan of his polyglot cultural lexicon. It makes his language sing a bit, IMO. I think we'd all do well to take on a little more of that. :hi:

[EFerrari]

35. Yes! He is musical in his speech. That's very true.

:)

[hiphopnation]

32. try reading some of his stuff

see if you have the same opinion of him

[hiphopnation]

36. you could also try listening to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeckcYw_tRs&feature=related

listen to all four parts

methinks you're listening to the wrong stuff...

[hiphopnation]

37. also

some of his sermons are lucid and transcendent. listen also to him wax eloquent at any of the "State of the Black Union"s he has paneled. The guy is uniquely profound and passionate.