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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:35 PM
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Karl "Christian" Rove needs to be indicted and inprisoned in the WORST prison possible.
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 09:47 PM by Hawkeye-X
ASAP.

Siegelman.
Minor.
Election theft.
Iraq War.
Manipulating the press.

I'm sure there's a lot more, but it's more than enough to indict Karl C. Rove for high treason and must have his life made into a living hell.

I don't care how it's done. I'd love to do a citizen's arrest and put him in the U.S. Marshal's Office and force the Marshals to take him and held without bail until his case comes in.

I don't want him free. I want him in Supermax in Florence, Colorado right next to the terrorists that have done damage to the United States. Rove has done damage to the United States, and needs to be imprisoned in the worst possible place for him. Don't let him live out his days in a country club somewhere. Just send him to Folsom or Soledad or one of those fed overcrowded prison that is ranked right below the bottom. Let him live among the roaches and the rats and let him suffer as we have suffered through his insanity.

Hawkeye-X

EDIT: Changed my mind about death.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:38 PM
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1. Nope, don't want to see Rove executed... Just kept in General populace until...
such time that he should expire.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:39 PM
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2. How's about we give him a fair trial first?
THEN, we execute him. :evilgrin:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:42 PM
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6. I say execute extraordinary rendition first then a fair trial
after 8 years
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:39 PM
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3. A lot of people agree with you but don't have the guts to say or do anything about it.
:dem:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:39 PM
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4. I have no desire to see him executed. nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:41 PM
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5. Sorry, Hawk. I disagree vehemently.
Even for the likes of Rove I won't give up my stand against the death penalty. Guantanamo forever with the rest of the Bushies, maybe. Life in prison, sure. (Preferably a CCA prison.) But not death. If only because it lets him off too light.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:45 PM
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8. Death is only too good for him.
Let him bleed painfully to death. Let him scream and pass out, then wake him up with cold water (waterboard his ass), then watch him pass out. Infinitum.

Circumvent the death penalty opposition. Chimp made torture legal by his enaction, so let's abuse it until Obama puts a stop into it, but I'd rather see him off my country and into the Hague where he belongs with Chimp and the rest of the maladministration.

He fucked up the country. He won't let Paul Minor see his dying wife. That's fucking bullshit.

SuperMax Gen Pop may be the right place for him, and have the guards paid nicely to look the 'other way' while the inmates beat him.

Hawkeye-X
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:57 AM
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13. Here is something I wrote a while back:
On Hate and Retribution

It's pretty natural to hate certain people for what they have done. I think a majority of people of my political stripe would admit to hating Rove, Bush, Cheney, and a lot of other members of the recently departed Administration. We want them to be brought to justice: we want them tried, convicted, and given some sort of harsh punishment.

I have been thinking a lot about this hate thing lately. For starters, I notice that I don't do my mind, my body, or my spirit much good by hating. Hate is a corrosive emotion, and I have seen people become progressively more twisted by hate over time. I don't want to become like that.

The Hopi, I am told, have a very different world-view than ours. If someone commits a very heinous crime, they see the offense as proof that the perpetrator is spiritually sick, and they hold healing ceremonies for the criminal. To them the situation is obvious: the person has done something that no normal, mentally and spiritually healthy person could have done. Therefore there is a terrible defect within the person that it is the business of the healers to remedy.

For the past few years, and for an unforeseeable time into the future, military and mercenary fighters have been and will be coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan, and many--maybe most--will be very injured. The preponderance of the injuries will be subtle and hard to detect. There will be very many brain injuries, that only sophisticated medical and neuropsychological testing can detect. There will be the emotional sequelae of trauma. Not just classic PTSD, but a whole range of what are coming to be called Disorders of Extreme Stress (not yet in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, now in its fourth edition, but watch for it in DSM-V). And there will be something else--something that we saw in a number of Vietnam vets, but which I think will be endemic in the Middle East returnees. It doesn't have a name yet, and there will be great efforts from officialdom to deny its very existence. For lack of a better name, I will simply call it Spiritual Sickness. It is the product of long-held guilt. For some, the guilt will be due to having killed a child who was mistaken for an armed enemy. For others, the guilt will be from deliberate acts of cruelty and inhumanity like those we know of from Abu Ghraib.

Even as you read this, our land is being populated by increasing numbers of people whose injuries of body, mind and spirit will create severe problems for generations to come. Some of them will be emotionally unstable and dangerous. Others will simply be unable to hold jobs. Many will drift into addictions to whatever substances or behaviors they can find to blunt their physical and emotional miseries.

Our immediate response will, no doubt, be the same as it has always been in the past. We will deny the existence of their injuries so that we don't have to pay to treat and support them. We will build more jails and prisons for them. We will perhaps find ways to make more use of the death penalty.

Would it not be better to learn from the Hopi? Let us treat our veterans with compassion, recognizing that, if some of them have become monsters, they did not ask to be made into such creatures. Let us try to heal them, and if we can't heal them completely, let us find ways to care for them humanely and provide for their needs.

But in order to take this path, we must give up something. We must give up our hate.

And that, you see, is the rub.

I believe, with the Hopi, that people who commit monstrous behaviors do so out of a spiritual sickness. I believe that is true in every case. I think this principle applies no less to George Bush than it does to Lynndie England.

Surely we must protect ourselves from those whose disorders render them dangerous. Again, this is no less true of a George Bush than of a Jeffrey Dahmer. But, while providing for our own safety, we must treat our damaged people with generosity and compassion. In the land of an Eye for an Eye, everyone ends up blind; however, we are about to enter a time in world history in which we will need every bit of vision we can muster.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:44 PM
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7. If American wants to survive, yes.
He is definitely a treasonous, war criminal and I'd like to see the torture he so advocates applied directly to him. And that fucker Rush, too.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:52 PM
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9. I have an idea.
We still have some of those "undocumented" prisons overseas, so why not send him there after he is convicted in court? I bet those guys would love to have him as a "guest"!:evilgrin:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:24 PM
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10. I got beaten around the head and shoulders a year or so ago
for expressing my views on what should happen to Rove. It involved his cellmate, a large and angry man named Bubba with lots of tats, and resulted in an emergency visit by Mr Rove to the prison infirmary.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:00 PM
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11. Yup, happy karma.
:toast:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:27 PM
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12. Drawn and quartered...it will be the most exercise that doughy fuckwit ever had
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