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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:01 PM
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Kucinich is finished. He lives in a 1,200 square foot home worth $26,000
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:02 PM
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1. Ummm, k nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:02 PM
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2. No way is that house worth only $26,000.00.
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 09:03 PM by ocelot
It's nothing fancy, but at least in my city it would go for upwards of $250,000.00.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:07 PM
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9. In my town
You could buy it for $12k.
Where is the house located?
Here is what a $200k house in my area looks like:

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:27 PM
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20. Here's a $200K in MY neighborhood
http://www.imrmls.com:8080/images/I/I681468.jpg
14831 CROFTBORO RD, Moreno Valley, CA 92553
Bedrooms: 2
Bathrooms: 1.00/
Year Built: 1979
Square Feet: 840
Lot Size: 3484
TG Number: 717G7
APN: 482252009
Pool: Y
Spa: N
View: Y
Type: Single Family Residence / Detached
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:30 PM
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21. or you could get this gem for $150K
http://www.imrmls.com:8080/images/K/4/K669688.jpg

Bedrooms: 1
Bathrooms: 1.00/
Year Built: 1947
Square Feet: 472
Lot Size: 10018
TG Number: 716J4
APN: 263150017
Pool: N
Spa: N
View: N
Type: Single Family Residence / Detached
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 05:18 AM
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43. not everyone lives in your town
a person could probably get two houses for $26,000 in Russell, Ks or heck, right here in my town on Osage St. I remember for a fact that I looked at a couple $13,000 houses when I was house hunting. The neighborhoods were kinda scary and packed in for my tastes.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:08 PM
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10. Yeah, even in WV that's a 100k house.
Elitist SOB !!

I love Dennis.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:21 PM
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Here in the northwest suburbs of Detroit, we have many houses IDENTICAL to that.
It's a pretty standard plan that was built in the late 40s and early 50s ... part of the post-WW2 GI Bill housing boom. In Berkley (adjacent to Royal Oak) where I went to grade school, that house would go for approximately $175,000-$200,000 depending on condition and upgrades. Berkley, except for mixed soning highways, is fairly uniform in housing prices and has become a preferred residential community - good schools and decent civic/commercial policies. Solidly middle class, it's low end white collar and upper end blue collar. In parts of Royal Oak and Madison Heights where there are IDENTICAL houses, it'd go anywhere from $130,000 to $180,000, depending on the neighborhood and its condition. Those cities are more variable and heterogeneooous.

Now, this is Oakland County. It's one of the wealther counties in the country, despite Michigan's economic woes. Thus, housing isn't falling quite as fast, but it's been on the decine for about 18 months. Prices are down about 10% (+/-some) from the highs.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:03 PM
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3. 26k? - in 2007?
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:03 PM
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4. why would that finish him. His house has nothing to do with elections.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:06 PM
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6. hey... over here...
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 09:06 PM by Lost-in-FL
shhhh... don't tell anyone but I think he/she is mocking a thread about Edwards being finished for building an expensive home recently. He/she's been sarcastic... shhhh...
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:06 PM
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8. OK, I missed that one.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:12 PM
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12. Read here.
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 09:14 PM by Lost-in-FL
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:04 PM
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5. thats a mansion compared to the Kennedy shack
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 05:14 AM
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42. LOVE SHACK! It's just a little old shack where Americans... can get together! n/t
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:06 PM
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7. $26,000 is the assessed price for tax purposes.
In real life, it has nothing to do with a potential market sale price. Since I am unfamiliar with Cleveland residential real estate, I could not put a potential value on it for selling. But it is worth more than $26,000 on the open market.
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Nabia2004 Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:33 PM
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33. There are 241 homes selling for under $25,000, with 3+ bedrooms in Cleveland
Looks like you can live like a "king" in Kucinich"s neighborhood.

Homes
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:12 PM
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11. Great post!
I love it!


more at link above~
Dennis J. Kucinich:
Cleveland, Ohio
Style of house: Garrison colonial
Year built: 1968
Square footage: 1,203
Rooms: 6
Bedrooms: 3
Baths: 1
Assessed value: $26,220

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july302001 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:15 PM
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13. normal house...
LOL. That's a normal house. Worth more than $26K but probably under $200K. Cleveland RE has been a little slow because it's a rust belt state.

BTW, I'm not a Kucinich fan.

Maybe we all could settle on something in-between Edwards' and Kucinich's places.

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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:18 PM
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14. And here is Clarks 4000 sq footer


http://www.boston.com/realestate/galleries/pres_res/4.html

It's neat that we can see such trival stuff now-a-days.
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july302001 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:25 PM
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18. That I can handle
I can handle that. 4,000 sf is a nice professional sort of place. That house looks like it's been there a few years. I notice the trees aren't all cut-down.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:45 PM
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25. I really detest the "faux plantation" style, personally.
I know it's really, really popular in the southeastern US, but I find the decorative pillars to be really ugly.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 06:14 AM
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46. I see he has to have two fireplaces to heat that monster..
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:21 PM
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15. Here is the house we all on DU want~



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bdrube Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:21 PM
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16. The Man Walks the Talk
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:22 PM
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17. It's not "worth" $26,000. The tax purpose assessment is $26,000.
Two entirely different things.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:27 PM
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19. if he ever has kids that looks like a good place to spank them, maybe by the picture
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 09:28 PM by chimpsrsmarter
window that the kid would have something nice to look at.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:31 PM
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22. Howard Dean knows Real Estate!!!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:46 PM
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26. I see that pic and think
Does no one use the front door, it's not shoveled off, & no visible walkway leading up to it. The driveway looks more like a cross country ski trail. And why is that basketball hoop up? There is no place to dribble.

It is a nice looking place to raise a family though.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:22 PM
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30. I thought the same things.
However, you know damn well that if they hadn't had the Scream to work with, at some point in 2004 the media goofballs would have shown this picture on TV every 2 minutes, and cited these things as reasons Dean is unfit to be president.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:40 PM
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23. Kucinich Mind is Rich
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:41 PM
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24. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the size and the value
the color's a little weird, though.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 10:18 PM
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27. I think it's great
It's a totally unassuming, normal American house. :D
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:43 PM
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34. I have a very vivid memory of one "piece" (I mean that in every sense of the word) on MSNBC
during the '04 primaries, before I swore off cable "news" for good...

The brunette anchorbot was, like, "after the break, we'll show you what Dennis Kucinich keeps in his campaign suite".. They built it up like it was gonna be really freaky deaky- who knows, gay porn? Turns out he had a cooler with -get this- vegan sandwiches! Tofu, wheat bread, vegetarian sushi (!!!) and something called ..... tempeh? :eyes:

"You ever heard of tempeh, Chip? No, we don't have anything like that at the local gas-n'-go... Sounds, uh............. tasty"

I was like, I'm not vegan, but what fucking year is this? Where people think eating fucking tofu or tempeh is, like, sooooooooooooo out there!- Yeah, he just landed in his spacecraft from Zeta Reticuli with cucumber and seaweed rolls. Weirdo!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 01:20 AM
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36. Wow, what a freak!
They should just ship him off to Gitmo, 'cause he sounds like a FURRINER to me!

/sarcasm :eyes:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 04:59 AM
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40. Oh, it was ridiculous.
I wasn't a Kucinich backer in the primaries, but I couldn't believe it.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 10:26 PM
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28. $26k
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 10:32 PM by fujiyama
I really doubt that. My parents spent ~$75k in a decent suburb of SE MI, around 20 years ago. Now, it's appraised at around $180k. Granted, the economy in this area is shit, and I doubt it'll sell right away, but I doubt $26 thousand is enough to buy a house in a trailer park.

That house, even in the lowest priced real estate areas will be worth around 80 grand. Ohio, like MI has taken a hit with the economy, but I'd seriously be surprised if you could find an actual house that cheap.

Either way, it's obvious he doesn't have tons of money and hasn't lived extravagantly. He's the closest to anyone running of living a middle class lifestyle. He's not my candidate, but he seems like genuinely decent guy and probably understands the concerns of working class people quite well in his area. He doesn't live in a nice gated community off in the suburbs (nothing really wrong with that either though as far as I'm concerned).

I also have to say I love his quote about ownership. When Bush talks about an ownership society, he speaks of the rich basically owning everything and everybody for that matter. With Kucinich you get a real sense of sincerity.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:08 PM
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29. Its darling so he doesn't have lots of money
but he is smart and American and for the working people
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:24 PM
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31. He's doing a lot better than most of us.
Being a House member brings a rather cushy compensation package. But you do gotta respect the guy for living relatively modestly.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:27 PM
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32. If I was Kucinich
and lived with that beautiful wife that he has, I would live in a small cabin so I could just be closer to her. What a lucky couple! I love'em both.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 12:07 AM
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35. Is Kucinich one of the poor 2nd America that Edwards wants to help?
I get what you're saying, if he lives in such a grand house, he's screwn in his efforts to get elected for anything in the future. But you shouldn't worry, as long as he doesn't give any homeless people a handout on the way to the store, he's OK, as long as he keeps every cent he earns in the bank. Don't even get me started on that European sports car in the driveway!!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 01:27 AM
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37. Looks like a Ford to me
Yes, it's a Ford Focus. Wow. And it looks like it hasn't been out of the driveway in a while; it's got snow on it.

http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2003/10/15/griscom-kucinich/
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 01:30 AM
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38. NOW do people understand why we Kucinichists love our guy?
Dennis Kucinich lives his values.

He's one of us.

He's not just some rich guy who blows in from time to time and tells us what he thinks we want to hear whenever he happens to need our votes.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 02:02 AM
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39. I gotta say
That I have more respect for the man this evening than I have ever had. :patriot:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 05:11 AM
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41. SADLY, This is EXACTLY Why He is FINISHED :-(
In America, politics has become an upper-class profession. You need to at least be an "honorary" member of the upper class to be considered credible.

Buying your way into high office through revolving door kickbacks by going in and out of public life and pimping speaking fees counts, as long as you end up with lots of money.

Otherwise you are considered a "washout" by virtue of not having been able to profit off of your political career. That is how most journalists see it.

Merely being upper-middle-class by virtue of academia or other profession doesn't cut it, unless you make lots of money.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 05:21 AM
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44. I did have a question about DK
In 2004, I remember reading that he had a net worth of $45,000. I just wonder how a US Representative who makes $160,000 a year has such a low net worth? Is he giving the bulk of his income to Greenpeace? Siriusly though, it does not seem to speak for good financial management.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 05:57 AM
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45. k&r for the man
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