Piyush "Bobby" Jindal to unemployed Louisianians: Screw you!

[KamaAina]

I'd rather grandstand for 2012 than extend your unemployment benefits! :grr: :banghead:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090220/pl_politico/19092

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal announced Friday that he will decline stimulus money specifically targeted at expanding state unemployment insurance coverage, becoming the first state executive to officially refuse any part of the federal government’s payout to states.

In a statement, Jindal, who is slated to give the Republican response to President Barack Obama’s message to Congress on Tuesday, expressed concern that expanding unemployment insurance coverage would lead to increased unemployment insurance taxes later on.

"The federal money in this bill will run out in less than three years for this benefit and our businesses would then be stuck paying the bill," Jindal said. "We must be careful and thoughtful as we examine all the strings attached to the funding in this package. We cannot grow government in an unsustainable way."

And if you believe that, I've got a bridge I'd like to show you...



P.S. Young Piyush Jindal adopted the name "Bobby" at the tender age of 4, after his favorite TV character -- Bobby Brady. You just can't make this stuff up!

[liberalmuse]

1. Jindal will NEVER be President.

I'm sort of amused with watching the governors turning down the stimulus. Those are the very fuckers fixing to run in 2012.

[Sherman A1]

2. Precisely

It's about posturing for their next step....

screw the citizens.

[Diana Prince]

3. Let them turn it down.

I wonder how many will have petitions recalling them. I am so glad that they can decline money for people who really deserve and need it when it was their Rethug Prez who got us into this situation.

[XOKCowboy]

4. It doesn't matter if he declines because the Repugs put in wording...

that allows Repug governors to posture for re-election by declining the big bad Stimulus money while their legislatures accept the money. He's just the first.

[KamaAina]

9. Actually, I believe Clyburn (D-SC) put that in

as soon as he heard that his wingnut gov Sanford was planning to do precisely this.

[XOKCowboy]

14. I believe that you are right...

Pretty clever, huh?

[FloriTexan]

5. Too bad he didn't go with "Barry"

Every non repub in this country should start criticizing him for his name change just like they did Barak. The freepers heads will explode trying to defend it. And Bobby Brady - for real - he ought to be laughed out of the state. That's hilarious!

[KamaAina]

8. I make a point of calling him "Piyush" because a small-town newspaper publisher says it's racist

again, you can't make this stuff up:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3471166&mesg_id=3471379

Let's take it a step further.

Issuing a news release pointing out that Jindal's first name is Piyush, which the state Democratic Party did last week, removed the racist label from the Republican Party and placed it clearly on the backs of the Democrats.

:wtf:

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[Justitia]

6. OMFG - he is actually going to deny his citizens unemployment help out of spite????

Wow! Is LA going to take this shit on the chin?

[Catshrink]

7. When his term is up, he'll be joining them.

if they don't recall him first.

[Deja Q]

10. I thought he changed his name to Bobby to appeal to white honky racist voters?

Now, when I was 4, I wanted to change my name to "Jack Tripper". He used his freedom of choice to change his name. Ultimately, as long as he's honest with himself, he's entitled.

[KamaAina]

11. It's certainly worked out nicely for him that way, but no.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/174518

Born Piyush Jindal on June 10, 1971, to one of the few Indian families in Baton Rouge, he suddenly announced at the age of 4 that he would answer only to "Bobby," in honor of his favorite "Brady Bunch" character.

:rofl:

edit: ironically, he was favored to win the previous gubernatorial election but lost to Dem Kathleen Blanco. Why? Um, white racist honky voters, some of whom couldn't quite bring themselves to punch for him, Bobby or no.

[burythehatchet]

15. Like many Indian families, his probably allowed him to adopt an anglican name

for the sake of fitting in. Raising his fuckin name as an issue shows the shallowness of so=called Democrats.

[musette_sf]

20. it is not an "issue" to use a public character's given name

i really don't get what your problem is with calling him Piyush Jindal. i think Piyush is the one with issues about his name.

[burythehatchet]

21. mmmm...I can just smell the sanctimony

[musette_sf]

25. you need to step away from the computer

and cool off. you are taking things completely out of context and taking personal umbrage, over a Repuke who isn't even proud of his own name and heritage. you do know he is also a rabid Roman Catholic convert, don't you?

[JI7]

42. nope, the person you replied to was correct about appealing to white racist voters

the same goes for his religious conversion.

and the same goes for his rejecting this money.

i'm the same race as Jindal also so don't try to accuse me of racism. the guy is a phony. and Piyush is not a name that is hard to say. most indians who adopt an anglican name do so because they have some hard to pronounce type name. or they use initials.

everyone should refer to him as Piyush. fuck him and his made up story about getting the name from brady bunch.

[EraOfResponsibility]

13. what does "Piyush" mean?

[burythehatchet]

16. What does it matter?

[EraOfResponsibility]

17. Just curious. Is it part of Jindal's name?

[KamaAina]

18. It is his given first name

as explained above, he adopted "Bobby" as a child, from the Brady Bunch character.

He couldn't even pick one of the cool Bradys...

[Harry Monroe]

32. There's a cool Brady?

[wolfgangmo]

47. Marsha.

Or Mrs Brady - she was hot.

[JI7]

43. i think the brady bunch story is made up

if his name actually was closer to sounding like bobby i might understand. but not from Piyush to bobby.

[musette_sf]

19. Piyush is his given name

and i think it is silly for him to call himself "Bobby", as if he is ashamed of his given name.

[Behind the Aegis]

22. "nectar"

[musette_sf]

24. that's beautiful!

i think Piyush might have some personal issues. i'd be okay if i had a name that meant "nectar".

[KamaAina]

26. Better check the expiration date on that nectar

:puke:

[Maine-ah]

51. let me google that for you....

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+does+the+name+piyush+mean%3F




I don't know who originally posted this site, but I love it! Your answer is within.

[MikeNearMcChord]

23. Huey Long call your office, the sumbitches are back in office.

[musette_sf]

27. oh, yeah, i forgot the reason i originally wanted to post to this thread:

nice photo of the CCC, formerly the GNO. first time i went over the GNO (maybe it was 1971?) i saw that the toll plazas were closed. i asked my hosts why. "because the bridge is paid for" was the response.

being from the NYC area, i had never even imagined a concept of closing tollbooths because a road/structure was paid for.

on edit: i note that the toll plazas now appear to be open.

[Raine]

28. Go ahead "Bobby" sacrific

yourself for your party, see what thanks you get from them. :rofl:

[Occam Bandage]

29. Calling him "Piyush Jindal" is the exact same as people saying "B. Hussein Obama." It's wrong.

And the "well why is he hiding from his real/full name" is exactly what race-baiting Republicans said to defend themselves, too. He wants to be called Bobby Jindal. Call him that. Don't give them the opening.

[KamaAina]

30. Was it wrong on January 20th?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inauguration_of_Barack_Obama#Presidential_oath_of_office

Chief Justice John Roberts administered the oath of office to Obama. Michelle Obama held the Bible, which was used in 1861 by Abraham Lincoln at his first inauguration, for President Obama. Obama also mentioned several weeks earlier that he wanted to use his full name for his swearing-in ceremony, including his middle name Hussein, in "follow(ing) the tradition, not trying to make a statement one way or the other." His middle name had caused some controversy during the election campaign when detractors tried to imply an association between Obama and Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

edit: also see #8 above. I and others (Bosshog here, many NOLA bloggers) insist on calling him "Piyush" only to give a poke in the eye to those, like north La. newspaper publisher Sam Hanna, who call us "racists" if we do so.

[Occam Bandage]

31. Nope. He chose to be called Barack Hussein Obama then.

And "we insist on calling attention to his ethnicity because then people call us racists" is probably the worst possible defense.

[musette_sf]

33. no, it is *not* the exact same.

Barack is not ashamed of his name and has never tried to hide it.

the fact that some idiotic morons tried a "Barack Hussein = Saddam Hussein" meme didn't make Barack ashamed of his name, either.

Piyush, on the other hand, seems ashamed of his name. he eschews his given name, and he gives tacit approval to his supporters to call those who use his given name "racist". he has also eschewed his native Hindu faith, and converted to an intolerant faith that views women as second-class citizens, and gays as a threat to the survival of the human race.

i am really surprised at some of our DUers who are going with the RW spin on "racism" in the case of Piyush Jindal.

Barack is proud of his name and his heritage.

by all appearances, Piyush is not.

(on edit: i do hope this does not descend into the exceedingly fine points of a teenager's nickname, i.e. Barry, since it's bloody obvious that it's a nickname, not a denial. e.g., Joseph/Joe, Margaret/Margie, Barack/Barry.)

[Chovexani]

34. DU is a real piece of work

And this post is no exception.

Fun Fact: certain extremist sects of Hindu nationalists feel the exact same way about women and LGBT people as the religion he converted to, it's really not a stretch. They also share your view that Indians are not permitted to convert to other religions without compromising their Indian identity. Fancy that.

Once again, predominately White, Middle Class DU has taught me that brown people who disagree with its precepts are not allowed to step outside the boundaries white people create for them, or else they will quickly be taught their place.

Whether Bobby Jindal is a self-hating man of color or not is not a discussion for white people to be having. You do not get to define this man's identity or existence for him. "By all appearances" you are making some asinine assumptions. Lest you think I'm picking on you unnecessarily, you are far from alone on this (sadly).

And I hate that this site is so goddamn racist I have to resort to defending the likes of this assclown and, previously, Michael Steele.

tl;dr version: Liberal White People do not get to define Brown People's lives and identities as Brown People, whether or not those Brown People accept their politics.

[Sebastian Doyle]

36. I could care less if Jindal wants to call himself Piyush, Bobby, Marcia, or Jan

What I find laughable are the Repuke hypocrites who were all hysterical about a "Muslim" with a "funny name" who was never a Muslim at all, but claim to have no problem with an Indian guy with a "funny name" who actually WAS a practicing Hindu earlier in life, and is now a Catholic who performed an exorcism on an ex girlfriend.

[Chovexani]

37. My rant wasn't really directed at that

Yes, the hypocrisy on the part of RWers is rather hilarious--but it's been well established by this point that PoC are welcome in the ranks of RW so long as they are good little foot soldiers for carrying out RW agendas and don't rock the boat by questioning anything. See, also: Thomas, Clarence, et al.

The point of my reply, which is the bone I have to pick here, on DU, is this entire discussion feels like yet another attempt by white people to divide PoC into "good" and "bad" categories based on arbitrary, racist preconceptions of what a PoC should be.

We don't know why the fuck Bobby Jindal doesn't go by his birth name. He could be named after a relative he hates or something (I've long thought of changing my last name because I do not acknowledge my birth father and feel disgusted that I carry his name). Or he could have been like the multitude of Jews in the entertainment industry who changed their names for greater career opportunities; something I refuse to judge them for even if it is personally distasteful to me, they did what they had to in order to survive, I blame the system that made them feel it was necessary in the first place.

More importantly, I guess I just feel extremely uncomfortable with a group of (largely) white people deciding what is and is not ok for a person of color to do and still be considered a "good" PoC. Don't get me wrong, my politics are diametrically opposed to those of Jindal, and I do question any PoC who aligns hirself with a political movement and ideology that is actively destructive to PoC communities. I feel the same way about Log Cabins and Republican Wiccans. But maybe I'm just a little goddamn sensitive after hearing one too many people of any shade tell me my rejection of Christianity and embrace of Neo-Paganism means I necessarily rejected my Black American heritage (despite the fact I practice Black Southern folk magic right along side my High Episcopagan froofery, and pay more than lipservice to my ancestors). Maybe I'm just a little goddamn sensitive because to this day I encounter white people who are utterly baffled as to how or why a black woman would identify with the Goth subculture ("how do you even do makeup?!" is the most innocuous question). Maybe I'm just a little goddamn sensitive hearing white people define blackness for me and then question me and call me an Oreo for stepping outside those carefully drawn lines. It's bad enough that I have to deal with that from other blacks (and I have, just as much as I've copped shit from various white folks)--but at the very least, they are coming from a place of familiarity. People who are not part of a group--who are part of a group that has actively oppressed and shut down that group and may well be the source of a lot of these issues in the first place---they do not get to define that group's identity for them. They do not get to decide who is a "good" ____ or a "bad" _____. Period. I could go on about particularly offensive it is in this case, due to the multitude of white-owned Western beauty companies who quietly market skin bleaching products to South Asian communities yet don't dare publicize that fact outside of those markets, but this wall of text is big enough as it is.

tl;dr: Whether Jindal is self-hating or not is an important discussion, a complex discussion that touches on issues of groupthink, internalization of colonialist precepts, etc. But it is not one for white people to be having. It is just a gentler way of putting PoC in our place by telling us what is and is not acceptable for us in the eyes of whites. It's another way for racists to divide PoC into good and bad categories based on arbitrary, racist preconceptions. This whole thing is a family matter, so to speak. It's personal and people need to STFU.

[chatnoir]

41. Wait, what?? Perfomed an exorcism on an ex-gf??!?

:wtf: Sounds like Sarah and him would get on like gangbusters.

[musette_sf]

38. again, as i said earlier in the thread to another with similar views,

you need to step away from the computer and chill out. if you think this is about some kind of racism about "Brown People", you're taking it way too personally, in my opinion. on edit: i really don't get the "brown" thing! i respectfully think you are overgeneralizing something that indeed is still an issue in society, but is not (in my opinion) the case here.

Piyush Jindal can have any religion he wants, it is of no importance to me unless he wishes to legislate its dogma, restrictions and prejudices as the law of the land. which he wishes to do. (i know a lot of progressive Hindus, so to make comparisons to fundamental Hindu extremists makes no sense at all.)

Piyush Jindal can have any political aspiration he wishes, it is of no importance to me unless he wishes to align himself with a political party and philosophy that is abhorrent to me. which he wishes to do.

i do not have and have not attempted to define the identity or existence of Piyush Jindal, nor any boundaries, real or imagined. i have an opinion, based on his very public eschewing of his ethnic identity.

i am astonished at being accused of "racism" over the idea that some people are offended by the use of a person's given first name. i am surprised that some are offended at the observation that Jindal seems to reject his ethnicity.

why waste your time defending @sshats like Jindal and Steele? this is NOT about color or racism. well, i wasn't there for the Steele bashing that you didn't like, but i've followed this thread, and i fail to see how it is about color or racism.

[bluedawg12]

39. Chovexani has a good point.

The thread was otensibly about Jindal refusing to accept Federal funding. That's a fair topic.

Instead it got into a discussion about ethnicity and an analysis of whether Jindal was accepting his of own heritage or not. I think his politics are fair game, the other is judgmentalism about the member of another ethnic group judged through a prism of our own standards.

[KamaAina]

35. Also Hussein is the President's *middle* name

Piyush is the La. governor's first name. He has never had it legally changed. (La. election law allows nicknames such as "Bobby" to appear on the ballot, and has for years; that was not cooked up just for him.)

Did Faux or anyone else run around saying "John Sidney McCain"? Did you even know that McCain's middle name was "Sidney"? Why would you?

[Jim Lane]

40. Well, if you want to refer to McCain's FULL name...

It's not "John Sidney McCain", it's "John Sidney McCain III".

Seven houses and a Roman numeral!

[funkybutt]

49. Are we sure?

Sometimes it seems that Jindal was allowed to use ONLY his nickname while others are forced to use their legal first name followed by the nickname in parentheses.

From experience, I know candidates who were told the law required it to be that way.

http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin/?rqstyp=CNDMD&rqsdta=102007&ID=10012919

[KamaAina]

52. Can you say "election fraud", kids?

Mr. KamaAina can!

[JI7]

44. it is nothing like Obama , we are talking about his First name

and it's a name that is not hard to pronounce as some other indian names might be.

[Political Heretic]

45. The legislature can still vote to accept it.

That provision got put in the bill just for dumbasses like this governor

[Flubadubya]

46. That's exactly what will happen and Jindal knows it...

Allows him to bluster and bloviate with all his RW BS and still get the money. However, I do believe he will prevent it from going to those who need it most right now... the unemployed of Louisiana.

He's still a pig fucker Rethug, no two ways about it. :puke:

[jmowreader]

48. I can thoroughly understand why Piyush adopted the nickname Bobby

Little kids are fucking cruel. You know that as well as I. If you think the boy who wears glasses, the girl who wears braces or the child who walks with a limp catch hell, just wait until someone with a funny name shows up. My mom is named Mikell, she caught hell for it for eighteen years, so when SHE had kids she made sure we got the blandest, most inoffensive names in the entire world. They actually met with their friends and threw out baby names for days to try to think of any possible way a kid could twist the name into an insult or a taunt.

This poor bastard is named Piyush? Oh shit. Piyush sounds like the kind of name even Hindu kids give you shit over. He probably got "piyushed" into the dirt lots of times. And "piyushed" into the pool. Maybe even "pee-yushed" on in the dressing room at the swimming pool. I also note he ain't the biggest guy in the world, so he could have got his ass kicked over his name a few times. So him going home one day and saying he was Bobby, not Piyush, makes perfect sense to me.

I still think he needs to go do something out of politics, but I understand where the "Bobby" thing comes from.

[opihimoimoi]

50. Jindal is a rising GOOPer....one of their very BEST...better than peanut Butter

Better than Sex, he is way above 9/11 Rudy and Mitt the Fit....

[KamaAina]

53. A simple and elegant solution to the name issue

Henceforth, until he is recalled or his term expires, the Governor of Louisiana shall be known simply as "Gov. Douchebag".

So there.

[Zomby Woof]

54. Anyone who named himself after a Brady Bunch chartacter

As a rule, is not fit to govern, nor can be taken seriously. That, and he really needs to go fuck himself.