Republican Bill Would Require Home Owners To Retain Internet Access Logs

[babylonsister]

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Republican Bill Would Require Home Owners To Retain Internet Access Logs
By Jamie Friday Feb 20, 2009 2:00pm


Chalk this up as forcing you to become big brother:

Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal law that would require all Internet providers and operators of millions of Wi-Fi access points, even hotels, local coffee shops, and home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police investigations.

The legislation, which echoes a measure proposed by one of their Democratic colleagues three years ago, would impose unprecedented data retention requirements on a broad swath of Internet access providers and is certain to draw fire from businesses and privacy advocates.

"While the Internet has generated many positive changes in the way we communicate and do business, its limitless nature offers anonymity that has opened the door to criminals looking to harm innocent children," U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, said at a press conference on Thursday. "Keeping our children safe requires cooperation on the local, state, federal, and family level."

Joining Cornyn was Texas Rep. Lamar Smith, the senior Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, and Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, who said such a measure would let "law enforcement stay ahead of the criminals."

Two bills have been introduced so far--S.436 in the Senate and H.R.1076 in the House. Each of the companion bills is titled "Internet Stopping Adults Facilitating the Exploitation of Today's Youth Act," or Internet Safety Act.

So in essence, if you have a wireless router in your home then you would be required to log all access to that router and keep those logs for two years. Why? Because your neighbor might do something bad and use your internet connection to do it.

What has me scratching my head is the situation of failure. What if my $50 Linksys decides to bite the dust after one year? Do I have to store that router for another year to comply with this law?

How about people who have routers without logging, or that has very limited logging that might only keep X number of records and couldn’t possibly store the data for two years? Will these people have to go out and by new routers now?

This legislation will really cause outcries from privacy advocates. Just the idea that some people may have to go out and buy new hardware simply to become a new “big brother” for our government is very troubling.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

1. What about a two-year log of everything we think, too?

"Dear diary, today I thought briefly knocking over a liquor store..."

[babylonsister]

2. The GOP will probably get around to that eventually. nt

[ColbertWatcher]

20. Our records show that's not the first time you've thought about that. n/t

[Warpy]

3. Fuck 'em

Just fuck 'em.

I won't comply. They are just shit out of luck.

[Bonhomme Richard]

16. My thoughts exactly. n/t

[hobbit709]

4. If there's a stupid idea out there in the world

You can bet that cornpone will jump on it. I swear that he's had one original thought in his life and it got lonely and left.
As far as I'm concerned, he can take that bill, fold it until it is all sharp corners and he can stick it someplace where the sun don't shine on him.

[MADem]

5. How asinine and unworkable. How stupid can the GOP be? Are they all Luddites?

Gee, who accessed this wifi router? Let's go through the list:

Ophelia Thigh, Heywood Yablowme, Jack Mihoff, General Nuisance, Hu Flung Pu, Barbie Dahl, Paige Turner, Ben Dover....why, the list goes ON and ON!!!

[me b zola]

32. Heywood Yablowme

:spray:

[MADem]

37. I don't know why, but those "amusing names with dual meanings"

always cracked me up, ever since, as a small child, I heard The Three Stooges refer to a law firm called "Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe!"

As I aged, they got more, er, risque, but a good one never fails to crack me up!

[Still Sensible]

6. It's just a SET UP! Most widely used GOP trick of recent

years. They would love to get a vote to the floor of the house or senate on this for the sole purpose of setting up their TV ad flights for 2010.

This is how they get those "Did you know my SOB opponent voted against protecting children?"

These kind of straw man bills have become a political constant. Democrats do not use this tactic nearly as much as republicans do, probably because we tend to play "fairer" than they do.

And the idea of requiring people to keep their Internet access logs is a joke.

On this particular bill, the fact is that the police are able to get plenty of cooperation today--through the subpoena and warrant system in place--and have a pretty good record of catching pedophiles and child pornographers. Obviously the only thing this particular proposal would do is insure that records are kept longer.

[hobbit709]

9. Judging from the record most of the pedophiles and sex offenders

ARE Republicans
http://www.republicansexoffenders.com/

[depakid]

7. Texas Republicans- keep 'em as far away from power- and your families as you can

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Hmm the web has changed politics

they are behind the power curve

Shut it down, SHUT IT DOWN

Never mind this is far from enforceable, but this is indeed the new world they like to live in

[babylonsister]

11. Rethugs seem to be throwing mud at the wall to see if anything

sticks. Stand by.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Agreed, take cover, it is sticky, that mud is

shower time?

[santamargarita]

10. I'd lick a Bear's ass before I'd do anything some Goddamn Republican wants!

My job is to piss-off, disorientate, disrupt and vote out Republicans!

[Urban Prairie]

12. Good luck enforcing it...

Some of my neighbors are too stupid or are too lazy to even bother protecting their WI-FI access points with encryption, (3 of the 7 within range) and these clowns expect these people to keep logs for two years??


:rofl:

[Kansas Wyatt]

14. Then the idiots would scream 'Big Brother' and blame the Democrats...

When police tracked down their internet activities, and started busting them for child porn, threats, harassment, etc. etc.

[MattBaggins]

15. Oh my; one paragraph into it and we get the "for the children"

canard. Why am I not shocked that some one played that card.

[DCKit]

38. They don't gots much else

[kestrel91316]

17. They want to do this to keep children safe?

Ok, well, NOTHING I do on the internet could possibly harm a child, so I refuse to cooperate. Period.

Enough is enough.

[dixiegrrrrl]

18. They have the most incredible obsession about kids and sex, don't they?

And a rapidly growing list of Republican office holders arrested for a variety of sex related crimes.

[babylonsister]

19. Kids and sex sell. You''re right about the rethug history, too.

Someone needs to make a commercial.

[satya]

21. How about they show us all of the WH emails & visitor logs for the past 8 years. nt

[blogslut]

22. Ha!

Even if they had that information, they wouldn't know what to do with it.

Good old repubs. Trotting out the children as if they were dogs and ponies.

[truebrit71]

23. Bloody good thing these brownshirts are in the minority....

...Epic fail...

[krispos42]

24. "Oh, gee... lookit that. Cat juuuuuuuust peed on the log, officer..."

"Here, catch!"

[iamthebandfanman]

25. thatll never pass but at the same time

i wish people who dunno what they are doing wouldnt use wireless routers.

i will NEVER use one simply because i know where theres a will theres a way and im not gonna give anybody the chance.

i will ALWAYS use a wired router, regardless of the holes i need to drill and the wire i need to run.

it amazes me all the unsecured wireless networks that even exist in my small kentucky town.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

26. What an epically stupid idea.

By definition a Republican one.

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Isn't Cornyn also the guy who wants to put abortion doctors to death?

Call me crazy, but I don't think this guy should be writing legislation.

[Chulanowa]

28. "To protect our children"?

More like the protect the RIAA and MPAA's profits while subsidizing their awful output.

[slay]

29. Exactly - these politicians are SCUM to hide behind children

when we all know the real use of this would be to stop people from downloading and sharing movies, music, whatever these assholes think they can squeeze some money out of. How much you wanna bet the dude who came up with this ridiculous shit is paid by riaa or mpaa? Fuckers - I straight up refuse right here and now. I will NOT help big brother monitor the internet. Ugh.

[orleans]

30. bend over & spread 'em! here comes the party of "small government" n/t

[tsuki]

31. As long as the RNC is exempted from the legislation. nt

[lostnfound]

33. IMHO we ought to be free to share wireless among neighbors

"Protectionism" by nations is deemed a bad thing these days by the free trade ideologues, but there's a lot of protectionist legislation that prevents individual human beings from doing anything to reduce profits by Corporate Inc. Why are we all forced to pay $60+ per month for internet access when we could share with neighbors? Why did they pass laws against community wifi systems? Why is it illegal to import drugs from Canada?

[SpiralHawk]

34. Republicons love BIG GOVERNMENT

Just as they love Nation Building (sending our tax money overseas)

Just as they are radical borrow-and-spend debt freaks.

For republicons, the word 'conservative' is just a propaganda coverup for their radical feed-the-rich reality

[marmar]

35. Good grief. The fascistic tendencies are strong in those Repugs......

n/t

[seafan]

36. Yep. We're all AT & T technicians now. Maybe we can claim immunity from prosecuting ourselves.

You just can't make this stuff up.


GOP: ISPs, Wi-Fi Must Keep Logs For Police, February 20, 2009

(CNET) Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal law that would require all Internet providers and operators of millions of Wi-Fi access points - even hotels, local coffee shops and home users - to keep records about users for two years to aid police investigations.

The legislation, which echoes a measure proposed by one of their Democratic colleagues three years ago, would impose unprecedented data retention requirements on a broad swath of Internet access providers and is certain to draw fire from businesses and privacy advocates.

"While the Internet has generated many positive changes in the way we communicate and do business, its limitless nature offers anonymity that has opened the door to criminals looking to harm innocent children," U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, said at a press conference on Thursday. "Keeping our children safe requires cooperation on the local, state, federal, and family level."

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Why don't we start with the George W. Bush administration's logs?