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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:07 PM
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Ridge: We were wrong to torture (BBC)
America's first homeland security secretary has accepted some criticisms of the US "war on terror" made in a recent report by legal experts.

Tom Ridge told the BBC that the report's attacks on extended detention and torture were justified.

But he also said the US had been dealing with a new kind of threat.

The report the International Commission of Jurists said anti-terror measures worldwide had seriously undermined international human rights law.

After a three-year global study, the ICJ said many states had used the public's fear of terrorism to introduce measures including detention without trial, illegal disappearance and torture.
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more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7903516.stm

Nice of the BBC to cover this, so we know what's happening in our own country.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:11 PM
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1. Wonder if this will get any play from the media?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:19 PM
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2. The media in the US? The media controlled by the GOP?
LOL!

The GOP-controlled media can't even clearly report how many people are out of work, how many people don't have healthcare, how many people don't have enough to eat or how many people are homeless.

Especially not convincingly enough for their viewers (those still able to afford to watch TV, listen to the radio, buy a newspaper, etc) to fully understand how bad the GOP made everything--not just in this country but around the world.

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:23 PM
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3. Thanks for nothin', Tom.
:grr:
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:27 PM
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4. Unbelievable.
He should be hauled in front of Congress pronto. Not only did these bastards torture people, looking so far like they will get away with it, but now they are openly discussing it?

How far we have come...
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:32 PM
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5. Well, as long as Tom Ridge admitted it, how about Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et al
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 04:37 PM by Cyrano
owning up to the fact that they gave the go-ahead to commit torture?

C'mon people, let's face it. A country's gotta' do what a country's gotta' do.

Don't you get it? If we gotta' torture people, we gotta' torture people.

Guilty? Innocent? What's the difference? There are terrorists out there. They gotta' be stopped. We gotta' look like we're doing something.

Hey, guys, we're looking at a "new" kinda threat. If that don't justify torture, what does?


Looking back at those who have just been thrown out of power, it's a wonder that half the people in America weren't tortured for what they might have known. I guess we should all be grateful because the worst thing that BushCo. did to them was to remove their jobs, savings, retirement accounts and financial security. Thank you, God, for the protection provided to us by the Republican Party.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:37 PM
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6. So, even more bushit&co admit to torture.
Why are they not prosecuted? They all admit they did it, it is illegal, what are we waiting for?


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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:39 PM
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7. Ummm, we're probably awaiting permission from the Great Pumpkin
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:45 PM
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8. LOL The way its going right now, you may be right. n/t
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:23 PM
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9. Yeah, that's all well and good Tom
Now where the fuck are the prosecutions?
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