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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 07:57 PM
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Anyone watch C-Span's Brian Lamb interview guy who wrote "Bowling Alone?"
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 08:32 PM by KoKo
Robert Putnam wrote that book...and he was "ahead of his time." Here's a review of his book when it first came out...years ago! Here's a review from AMAZON.COM...

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BOWLING ALONE

Once we bowled in leagues, usually after work; but no longer. This seemingly small phenomenon symbolizes a significant social change that Robert Putnam has identified and describes in this brilliant volume, Bowling Alone.

Drawing on vast new data from the Roper Social and Political Trends and the DDB Needham Life Style—surveys that report in detail on Americans' changing behavior over the past twenty-five years—Putnam shows how we have become increasingly disconnected from family, friends, neighbors, and social structures, whether the PTA, church, recreation clubs, political parties, or bowling leagues. Our shrinking access to the "social capital" that is the reward of communal activity and community sharing is a serious threat to our civic and personal health.

Putnam's groundbreaking work shows how social bonds are the most powerful predictor of life satisfaction. For example, he reports that getting married is the equivalent of quadrupling your income and attending a club meeting regularly is the equivalent of doubling your income. The loss of social capital is felt in critical ways: Communities with less social capital have lower educational performance and more teen pregnancy, child suicide, low birth weight, and prenatal mortality. Social capital is also a strong predictor of crime rates and other measures of neighborhood quality of life, as it is of our health: In quantitative terms, if you both smoke and belong to no groups, it's a close call as to which is the riskier behavior.

A hundred years ago, at the turn of the last century, America's stock of social capital was at an ebb, reduced by urbanization, industrialization, and vast immigration that uprooted Americans from their friends, social institutions, and families, a situation similar to today's. Faced with this challenge, the country righted itself. Within a few decades, a range of organizations was created, from the Red Cross, Boy Scouts, and YWCA to Hadassah and the Knights of Columbus and the Urban League. With these and many more cooperative societies we rebuilt our social capital.

We can learn from the experience of those decades, Putnam writes, as we work to rebuild our eroded social capital. It won't happen without the concerted creativity and energy of Americans nationwide.

Like defining works from the past that have endured—such as The Lonely Crowd and The Affluent Society—and like C. Wright Mills, Richard Hofstadter, Betty Friedan, David Riesman, Jane Jacobs, Rachel Carson, and Theodore Roszak, Putnam has identified a central crisis at the heart of our society and suggests what we can do.
—from the publisher's website


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Here's another review from AMAZON READERS:

Can You Handle the Truth?,
July 20, 2000
By Joshua D. Hamilton
Putnam's commentary on modern American life is frightening at best.

I read Putnam's article by the same title in college and it left a lasting imprint because it crystalized my feeling that Americans are no longer involving themselves in civic and community life. His new book expounds on this depressing thesis and explains, in tremendous detail how Americans no longer value civic engagement or regard relationships with neighbors as worthwhile. He cites declines in participation in public clubs such as the Shriners and Elks clubs as well as more informal social gatherings like poker playing and family dinners. Using statistics and time diaries he plots indicators of civic engagement from its peak in the early 1960's and its subsequent decline thereafter. The greatest casualty throughout this transformation is in social capital, a term which predates Putnam and describes the emotional and practical benefits of personal relationship.

Putnam shows that civic clubs that have shown growth in membership since the 1960's have mostly been in massive national organizations whose membership is nothing more than people on mailing lists who pay an annual fee. Furthermore, religious organizations, whose members participate in their communities at greater rates than non church goers, are beginning to change their focus from civic participation to only tending to the needs of their church members.

The affects of this disengagement have impacted our health, democracy and safety. Putnams points out an axiomatic principle that as people associate with one another in various capacities, whether it be at the kitchen table, the sidewalk, the card club or the PTA, people form relationships that provide a pool of friends who can be relied upon when time are hard, the dog needs to be walked, or the poor elderly woman next door needs her home painted. Each relationship is an asset, the accumulation of which can be called one's "social capital."

Putnam does not place the blame for this on one source, but cites the entrance of women into the workforce, high levels of divorce, and urban sprawl among others as possible contributors. His most damning remarks are reserved for television. According to Putnam, no single technology has had such a damaging effect on America's civic and personal relationships. I enjoyed his attack on TV on a personal level because I decided 5 years ago to throw away my television and have never looked back.

Certainly, Putnam's concerns are not new. He admits to this and provides the reader with an excellent look at the Progressive Era when American's decided to solve the vexing problems of an industialized urban society by forming civic clubs and actively involving themselves in their community.

This is not a particularly fun book to read. In summary, it details how Americans have become spectators on life. The recent success of "reality based" television programs only illustrates how we have traded the potential richness of personal relationships for a false reality on our television screens. Life is about personal relationships, and it is sad to see how Americans have avoided these relationships.

Putnam is not all gloom and doom. As with everything, hope abounds. After reading this book, one should only be encouraged to find ways to involve himself or herself in their communities and invite the neighbors over for a BBQ. This is an important social commentary, and I encourage all to read it.


http://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Community/review/product/0743203046/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:20 PM
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1. The war on drugs coincides with our anti-social trend.
Not a coincidence. We are a people who have been stigmatized by our own laws.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:33 PM
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2. What does this post have to do with the "War on Drugs," though?
:shrug:
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 10:07 PM
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3. I read this book yrs ago and can identify with what it says. As a
lifelong introvert, I only represent about 25% of the population, but I see many many more people other than just myself going home after work and not going out again -- not for bowling, not for friends, not for anything. For me, this is normal; introverts need lots of time alone to "recharge their batteries" -- I have a job where I am constantly responding to people all day long, and by the time I get home, I don't want to see any more people. That's just the way it is. I do occasionally force myself to go out and do something with friends, but with the workplace the way it has been for the past 20 years, I suspect lots of ppl besides me enjoy going home to -- peace and quiet. Even many of the so-called extroverts.

Secondly, as a 57-yr-old I can report that the public in general, and many individuals in particular, have become much more openly rude, impolite, demanding, childish, and/or unstable than was the case in the past. Decent standards of behavior are not enforced. Frankly, who would want to join civic clubs or bowling leagues when you will almost surely be blessed with the presence of at least one out-and-out asshole, who can't even be asked to leave? (Believe me, if you try to insist that disruptive assholes be dismissed from the group, you are very unlikely to have anyone else back you up. Cowardice is another recent and unwelcome development.) Groups have done some of this to themselves -- by not policing the group. Just try to belong to a church that is unwilling to throw out its divisive, but financially valuable, members, and you will see what I mean. That group you belong to will give you stress rather than a feeling of community.

And that's basically my point. Even extroverts have their limits as far as stress goes, and you will meet your maximum stress level out there dealing with the public. I think work (and this is where Putnam's comment on all the women in the workplace hits the spot) generates quite a lot of stress these days, and people just don't want more piled on in the form of groups whose members are quite likely to add to the stress level.

I also completely agree with his comment on the baleful influence of TV. Unfortunately, the fake relationships of TV are, to many people, preferable to the rocky ones of real life. TV also glorifies the rudeness I mentioned above and probably makes it more common.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 10:30 PM
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4. Appreciate your sharing...and I can't disagree much with what you say...
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 10:32 PM by KoKo
I'm not an introvert but selective in groups ...and there's none that I've found in many years that I want to belong to. Things end up with one or two dominating...and some kind of "pecking order." The days when one just wanted to be part of a group for "common cause" and folks could "tone down their ambitions" seem long gone. I do think at one time folks did seem to view their time outside of work as "non-competitive time" but sadly in our society one is so used to competing for everything that it carries over. The kind of relaxed social groups are something from the 1950's dream of what was.

But, as a society it's sad we mostly don't bowl and do much alone these days. Yes, there's the Church Crowd, communing and homeschooling and getting together for the "contemporary services of music and theater" and the Sports Crowd...who do "SuperBowl" once a year in front of their new Plasma Wide Screen or have casual pizza get togethers with the kids when they are still young enough to be at home.

There is much that we don't commune together about these days outside TeeVee Sports watching and Church.

Maybe the fantasy of "Dancing with the Stars" or "Dock Bloc Crime" is the escapism from the world. I don't get it...but so many others seem to. :shrug:

Anyway...thanks for your post...I'm closer to your experience in age...so I really appreciated that there was someone else who could express what I was trying to piece together in my own mind.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:07 AM
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5. You're welcome. I agree that time outside work once was considered
"non-competitive" time, and ppl cooled their jets when out with a group or in public. Now they are often rude, as I mentioned, and there is often a person who is always trying to sell you something. I've even heard of people being invited to a party at a new acquaintance's house, only to arrive and find out it is a Tupperware party, or Amway, or some shit like that! In other words, it was never friendship, it was commerce! It's no wonder that so many people feel burned and retreat to their TVs. They feel used.

Mr Nay and I are looking forward to retirement (if the damn economy will let us) when we plan on doing lots of RVing and camping. You want to see a wonderful group of relaxed, friendly people? Stay in campgrounds.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:46 AM
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6. there is a lot of truth in this...
I know a lot of my depression is linked to a lack of social outlets and friends, etc...
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