Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Hi-tech research shows Neolithic axes have travelled from the Alps

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:46 PM
Original message
Hi-tech research shows Neolithic axes have travelled from the Alps
Source: Daily Echo
Andrew Napier

IT’S a mystery that could shed light on life in Hampshire 6,000 years ago.

Four Stone Age axes, dating from a time when people had stopped hunting woolly mammoths and sabretoothed tigers and turned to farming, are giving clues to the origins of settled human life in the county.

They were found at Hill Head and Titchfield, near Fareham, and at Beaulieu, in the New Forest, and Bartonon- Sea.

The tools, which are now in Winchester City Council’s collection, have been analysed and found to originate in the north Italian Alps from around 4,000BC. They had been carried for many miles before they were lost in Hampshire. But no-one knows why or how they got here.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4143357.Hi_tech_research_shows_Hampshire_s_Neolithic_axes_have_travelled_far/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:50 PM
Response to Original message
1. Perhaps a landbridge across the English Channel during colder years?
True, boats are a possibility, but I don't think mankind had anything really sophisticated in the way of boats back then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Yes, you are right I believe. During the Ice Age the sea level

was about 300 ft lower than it is today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:44 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. About 2,000 years too late; but they did have boats in 4000 BC, so there's no need
The English Channel was formed long before that, but there was a low-lying area in what is now the North Sea; but that disappeared, and Britain became an island, about 6000 BC:

Lost world warning from North Sea


Archaeologists are uncovering a huge prehistoric "lost country" hidden below the North Sea.

This lost landscape, where hunter-gatherer communities once lived, was swallowed by rising water levels at the end of the last ice age.
...
As the temperature rose and glaciers retreated and water levels rose, the inhabitants would have been pushed off their hunting grounds and forced towards higher land - including to what is now modern-day Britain.

"In 10,000 BC, hunter-gatherers were living on the land in the middle of the North Sea. By 6,000 BC, Britain was an island. The area we have mapped was wiped out in the space of 4,000 years," explains Professor Gaffney.

So far, the team has examined a 23,000-sq-km area of the sea bed - mapping out coastlines, rivers, hills, sandbanks and salt marshes as they would have appeared about 12,000 years ago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6584011.stm


But small boats have been found in the area from that period:

# Pesse logboat, Netherlands. Found on land, dated to ca 6300-7000 BC. 3 m long and made of pine tree. Described in an article by Detlev Ellmers in The Earliest Ships (Conway Maritime Press 1996).
# Logboats of French inland. Three different finds have been made in the Seine valley area near Paris. The finds were made between 1984 and 1994. They are C14 dated to between 6400 and 7200 BC. Replicas have been made by GRAS. Ref Philippe Bonnin: Découverte de deux pirogues monoxyles mésolithiques entre Corbeil-Essonnes (Essonne) et Melun (Seine-et-Marne). Report.
# Hardinxveld-Giessendam logboat, Netherlands. Excavated on land in 1998, 5.5 m long, dated to c 5000 BC.

http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/wreckeur.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:53 PM
Response to Original message
2. In the Neolithic age, savage warfare did I wage
Cool story. I love stuff like this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 12:19 AM
Response to Original message
3. Evidently, offshoring was a problem 6,000 years ago. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC