As the GOP Burns, Some Party Leaders Still Cling to Conspiracy Theory

[Why Syzygy]

Shelby is a four-term United States senator, and the ranking member on the Senate Banking Committee!

~snip

Why is it so painfully difficult to take the Republican Party seriously in the 21st century? Because they haven't quite figured out that credibility comes with a degree of political maturity. Take Sen. Richard Shelby (R) of Alabama, for example. (via Ben Smith)

Another local resident asked Shelby if there was any truth to a rumor that appeared during the presidential campaign concerning Obama's U.S. citizenship, or lack thereof.

"Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven't seen any birth certificate," Shelby said. "You have to be born in America to be president."

According to the Associated Press, state officials in Hawaii checked health department records during the campaign and determined there was no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.
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In the broader context, the Republican Party is still unsure how to get back on the road to electoral success after years of failure and defeat. While the party mulls its options, we have a leading House Republican comparing the GOP to the Taliban; a prominent Senate Republican wanting to position the party as "freedom fighters" taking on the "slide toward socialism"; and a leading Senate Republican publicly questioning the President of the United States' birth certificate.

It seems a little early in Obama's presidency to see Republicans become this deranged. I shudder to think how unhinged they'll be in, say, a year.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/128239/as_the_gop_burns%2C_some_party_leaders_still_cling_to_conspiracy_theory/

[opihimoimoi]

1. AS the U.S. Politics evolve....the GOP deserves DELETION for having an Obsolete Philosophy

No matter how they dress themselves...they are still Pigs...

Their basic level is that of MEism and selfishness

[Why Syzygy]

2. These are the folks who have been running our nation

for 8 grueling years. Is it any wonder we're in a ditch the size of Grand Canyon?

[opihimoimoi]

3. Any major football team having a losing record of 8 years would have rid themselves of the coaches

long ago.....

We were nuts to allow Bushie in the Oval Office...he and his people truly screwed the nation

Country First? my ass it is.....Them Pubs think of themselves FIRST

[tom_paine]

4. Bushies and Nazis. Nazis and Bushies. You think that votes and politics matters to them?

They re playing on a vastly different field than you and our Congressional Democrats seem to think.

They are playing on the field that all tyrants seeks, that of raw power. They are playing on a field that Liberals throughout history have traditionally been totally caught unawares when tyrants, from Caesar to Hitler and everyone in between, before and since, changed the rules on them.

Oh, the astonished gaping looks. I'd like to have a photo album from all of history of all the liberals who brought boxing gloves to a gunfight or an artillery battle. That last long gaping surprised look, when the showers turn on and the Zyklon-B sprays out. May God Forgive me for saying it so harshly, but the time for platitudes has passed.

And include in that album, my own face peering at me through the mirror, dumb sheep's surprise even though I have seen it coming hazily for 20 years and clearly for 8 years. My own link in the unbroken chain of history going backward.

To all those, the political behavior of the Bushies and their Hannidiots, Savage Weiners and Dittoheads seems insane and guaranteed to doom them to marginalization and electoral failure.

Maybe it will turn out that way, and all my concerns have been vapors. I certainly hope so.

But here is what the overwhelming verdict of 8000 years of human history suggest, with some notable but very seldom exceptions:

On the playing field of Bushie or Nazi or ANY kind of tyrants, RAW POWER is the only currency. Thanks to media saturation and the penetrating power of Bushiganda, not to mention Bushie Gleichschaltung and Media Control Programs, the numbers of truly insane Bushies, the mental equivalent of Hitler's followers in almost all ways now, now far exceeds, I think, the number of fanatic Nazi Hitler had at his back in 1933.

If our democratic-republic was strong and healthy, this WOULD cause the Rushpublican Party to adapt or die.

But Bushies and Nazis create their own realities, as it should be quite clear by now.

Thus, I postulate, but once again hope and pray I am wrong, that the Rushpublicans will be vaulting back to power, and perhaps sooner than you think.

Great Depressions and National Calamities such as Reichstag and 9/11 are GREAT for Bushies and Nazis.

Bad for the rest of us. We are soon about to find out just HOW bad, and what the Bushie Final Solution to the Liberal Problem will be. 25 years, tops, probably MUCH sooner, thanks to the Bush Depression now upon us.

[Why Syzygy]

7. Chilling. And Correct.

It seems to me that GW was motivated to try to push the Left over the cavern far enough that we would revolt. Order from Chaos operation. We didn't succumb to the provocation. For that, they can surely count on the Right.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=427584

(Further indications in link below for the "Defend our Freedoms" terrorists.)

[Soupy Liberaltarian]

5. I must correct the record here.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Shelby_dabbles_in_citizenship_rumor.html

"The Cullman Times article contains an incomplete account, and therefore a distortion, of Sen. Shelby's comments regarding President Obama's citizenship. At the town hall meeting in Cullman, Sen. Shelby laid out the Constitutional qualifications for the Presidency and said that, while he hasn't personally seen the President's birth certificate, he is confident that the matter has been thoroughly examined."

[Why Syzygy]

6. Did he sign on to

The lawsuit?

edit: They say they have seven now, but I can't find a list.

***WARNING*** wicked ugly right wing site:
http://defendourfreedoms.us/

[charlyvi]

8. The Cullman Times stands by its story.

You are quoting a Shelby aide's defense of the Senator as told to Politico.



Mon, Feb 23 2009

Breaking News: UPDATE: Shelby's office calls Times report 'distortion' February 22, 2009 07:57 pm
Published: February 22, 2009 08:42 pm

UPDATE: Shelby's office calls Times report 'distortion'

By Derek Price
The Cullman Times

(EDITOR'S NOTE: The Cullman Times is seeking any video or audio recordings of Sen. Shelby's comments at Saturday's meeting. If you have a recording that you could share with us so we could post it on CullmanTimes.com, please e-mail [e-mail].)


Sen. Richard Shelby's office is calling a Cullman Times report "incomplete" and a "distortion" of his comments on President Obama's citizenship status during a town hall meeting Saturday.

When asked during the meeting whether there was any truth to the rumor that Obama was not a United States citizen, Shelby said, “Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate. You have to be born in America to be president.”

According to the Politico, a Washington-based political publication, Shelby spokesman Jonathan Graffeo issued the following statement:

"The Cullman Times article contains an incomplete account, and therefore a distortion, of Sen. Shelby's comments regarding President Obama's citizenship. At the town hall meeting in Cullman, Sen. Shelby laid out the Constitutional qualifications for the Presidency and said that, while he hasn't personally seen the President's birth certificate, he is confident that the matter has been thoroughly examined."

The Times stands by its reporting as complete and accurate.

The Times is seeking video or audio recordings from the meeting and, if available, will post them on CullmanTimes.com.

http://www.cullmantimes.com/breakingnews/local_story_053205749.html

[rvablue]

9. A press release from some lying Republican Senator does not correct the record.

The newspaper is now on the hunt for any video of the event.

The Senator only further embarrassed himself by denying it, because in this day and age, something is bound to surface.

Shelby is a loser -- he was trying to sate his fanatical, racist base.

[Why Syzygy]

11. It's bizarro world

to believe that after he said this:

“Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate.

he went on to say, but he's "confident" everything is beyond reproach. "They said" .. :eyes:

[charlyvi]

14. Yeah. Like telling a jury to not consider a piece of evidence

after it's already been introduced. Childish, really.

[bosbdd2009]

10. GOP = Grand Old Pretenders

The Republican party will never make a come back until they actually change some of their positions on the issues. What they are doing now is just trying to re-package the same old tired Newt Gingrich positions on issues they have had since forever. Basically they are saying we will not change anything, just re-name some of our right-wing groups and put a different spin on our positions.

The American people will not be fooled, unless they actually change their policies and their positions nothing will change. What's the old line, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. The GOP is just trying to put lipstick on that pig and claim it's not a pig anymore.

Message to GOP, nobody is gonna fall for it, and you are stupid to even try it. If you want to fix the party, you need to actually change your platform and get some positions that most people support. Running on wedge issues like abortion and gay marriage aint gonna cut it anymore.

[Why Syzygy]

12. I think they are satisfied being the party

of right wing hate groups! That's their BASE!

[charlyvi]

13. You know, I really don't get the Gingrich thing.

After the government shutdown and his whiny pout about not getting a seat on Air Force One to go to some head of state's funeral, New Gingrich was voted the most hated politician in America. Yeah, guys. Listen to Newt. Please listen to Newt.