Spain Withdraws Gardasil After Illnesses

[Fireweed247]

Spanish health authorities have withdrawn tens of thousands of doses of Gardasil, a vaccine against the human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV), after two teenagers who received the shots were hospitalized.

The two girls were vaccinated last week as part of a vast government program targeting adolescents. A batch of nearly 76,000 doses of the vaccine has been withdrawn from the market...

Side effects including paralysis and death have been reported in relation to Gardasil, among many, many others. Yet, on October 21, 2008 the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in association with the FDA released a report alleging that the vast majority, or even ALL, of the 10,000+ adverse reactions reported are not related to the vaccine. Therefore, they say, Gardasil is safe.

How did they come to this conclusion? Only the investigators know, and the information is not being made public so independent researchers can make their own decisions.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/02/24/Spain-Withdraws-Gardasil-After-Illnesses.aspx

[mzteris]

1. how disingenous . .

that was ONE BATCH that was suspect - they've been giving the vaccine in Spain since 2006 . . .

oh and the most important part of the article:

"Some half million cases of cervical cancer are diagnosed annually, according to United Nations figures, many of which occur in developing nations. If left untreated, invasive cervical cancer is nearly always fatal."


BTW: the POLIO vaccine has been known to cause even death in some - do you think we should pull that, too?

[Fireweed247]

2. If it were your child, I think the cases of severe injury would be the most important part...

On NVIC’s Web site, you can read several stories of women and girls who have been seriously injured, and in some cases died, shortly after receiving this vaccine, including:

• Christina Tarsell, a 21-year-old college student majoring in studio arts at Bard College, who died suddenly and without explanation shortly after receiving the third Gardasil shot in June 2008.

• Gabrielle, a 15-year-old former gymnast and cheerleader who can no longer attend school and is suffering from severe headaches, heart problems and seizures since getting the vaccine. She has been diagnosed with Inflammation of the Central Nervous System as a result of a Gardasil vaccine reaction, and her condition continues to deteriorate.

• Megan, a 20-year-old college student who died suddenly, without explanation, about one month after receiving her third Gardasil shot. No cause of death was found.

• Ashley, a 16-year-old who became chronically ill after receiving Gardasil, and now suffers regular life-threatening episodes of seizure-like activity, difficulty breathing, back spasms, paralysis, dehydration, memory loss and tremors.

Sadly, Merck only studied the Gardasil vaccine in fewer than 1,200 girls under 16 prior to it being released to the market, and most of the serious side effects that occurred during the pre-licensure clinical trials were merely called a “coincidence.”

[mzteris]

3. no - it's still this part

"Some half million cases of cervical cancer are diagnosed annually, according to United Nations figures, many of which occur in developing nations. If left untreated, invasive cervical cancer is nearly always fatal."


BTW - you might want to look up the definition of causality.

[Fireweed247]

4. I understand causality

Further, there have been a dizzying array of reactions reported among girls who received Gardasil alone, without any other vaccines, such as:

• 34 reports of thrombosis
• 27 reports of lupus
• 23 reports of blood clots
• 16 reports of stroke
• 11 reports of vasculitis
• 544 reports of seizures

[mzteris]

6. and your previous post said things like

"without explanation" and "no cause of death was found"

How many proven links are there? What is the percentage of all vaccines given? What other health problems did these girls have?

And again - the mortality rate for cervical cancer is - what? nearly 100%. . . .

[Fireweed247]

12. that was from the article

But when a horrible illness happens right after the vaccine, people with common sense put the two together. When it happens over and over, it becomes obvious as to what is the cause.

[mzteris]

13. evidently "obvious" was wrong, now wasn't it?

See poster on EU's findings. . .

[Fireweed247]

15. The EU findings- how the hell do they know what happened in Spain?

They have the same corrupt bastards running their organizations like the US.

[CreekDog]

18. there are other causes for those "reactions" than Gardasil

it would be one of many possibilities.

just because you rule out other vaccines (i don't know how you do that) doesn't mean the one vaccine is the culprit.

it could be totally unrelated to the vaccine.

[Fireweed247]

20. but as we look for other causes, we cannot ignore the obvious

Why should we assume that the vaccines are safe in the first place? Because they were approved by our governmental agencies? :rofl:

[LeftishBrit]

23. Most of these vaccines...

were approved by many agencies outside America as well.

America is not the only country that uses vaccines and most have a pretty similar schedule.

Would you apply the same strictures to the WHO?

[CreekDog]

24. i'm not assuming anything

if anything you suggested we assume a connection before there was enough evidence for causality.

[LeftishBrit]

9. I have known several young women who developed chronic mysterisous disabling illnesses in

adolescence and early adulthood - before Gardasil ever existed. It's always important to have a control group.

If one is going to use emotive anecdotes, there are plenty on the other side. Here's a tragic story that is very prominent in the British press right now, as Jade Goody is a well-known celebrity. The same sort of thing happens to plenty of other young women who are not celebrities.


www.screenindia.com/news/jade-goody-rushed-to-hospital/405787

www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7903784.stm

[Fireweed247]

5. Merck, such an honest good willed company-always looking out for the people

Even the National Cancer Institute says:

"It is important to note, however, that the great majority of high-risk HPV infections go away on their own and do not cause cancer."

So while Merck would like you to hear that 6 million women contract HPV annually -- they do not tell you most of those cases are harmless. Cervical cancer actually claims less than 3,900 women a year -- most of which are due to not getting regular Pap smears.

You should also know that Gardasil does not protect against all types of HPV, and you can still get cervical cancer even if you’ve been vaccinated. As the CDC states:

“About 30% of cervical cancers will not be prevented by the vaccine.”

[mzteris]

7. 3900?

"Some half million cases of cervical cancer are diagnosed annually"?


or are you just talking about 'merica?

[K8-EEE]

28. The choice between "Do you want cancer or this shot?" is so fake

There are a lot of lifestyle issues and other things that factor in. If a teen is say, celebate or maybe a lesbian in a monogamous relationship she is way less likely to get one of these things than if she is very sexually active with men.

I hate it when they act like if you don't decide to take every vaccine that comes down the pike you're ignorant. If people make an INFORMED decision yes or no after discussing it with their doctor that is the way to go.

[SidDithers]

8. EU agency says Gardasil vaccine safe to use

LONDON, Feb 19 (Reuters) - European regulators gave Merck and Co Inc's (MRK.N) Gardasil a clean bill of health on Thursday, saying the cervical cancer vaccine was safe and did not make two Spanish girls ill.

The European Medicines Agency said its committee of experts had reviewed the cases of the two girls who became ill after the shots and determined their illness was unlikely to be related to vaccination with Gardasil.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/rbssHealthcareNews/idUKLJ83565820090219

Cervical cancer vaccine unlikely to have caused seizures in girls: drug watchdog

The cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil did not cause the seizures and loss of consciousness in two girls as was earlier feared, the European medicines watchdog has concluded.

<snip>

Both girls had been vaccinated with the same batch of the vaccine, Gardasil, in Spain, and fell ill soon after. They are now recovering and the European Medicines Agency has investigated and found that the jab was unlikely to have caused their condition.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/4699149/Cervical-cancer-vaccine-unlikely-to-have-caused-seizures-in-girls-drug-watchdog.html

Sid


Edit: oh, and mercola :rofl:

[mzteris]

10. getting your medical adivce from

Mercola is like getting your news from Rush and Fox.

[Fireweed247]

11. Getting medical advice from Merck

Getting medical advice from Merck is like asking the company that stands to make a lot of money off of you, whether you should give them money or not.

Getting medical advice from Merck is like asking a company that would have to pay billions of dollars if their vaccine was killing people whether it is safe or not.

[mzteris]

14. at least Merck has has qualified

advice. Mercola is a Charlatan, plain and simple. A snake oil salesman - he makes money of the crap that he sells to unsuspecting and ill-informed people.

You would do well to cast your net a little wider and do some research not connected to a bonafide quack.

[Fireweed247]

16. yeah, you can trust Merck

:rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. Cervical cancer is God's cure for immoral women.

Thank God the Spanish government isn't encouraging promiscuity.

:crazy:

[Fireweed247]

19. I posted this for any concerned parents who might be questioning whether to get this vaccine or not

Thank you for the 4 recommends that came quickly before the attack posters.

[SidDithers]

22. "the benefits of Gardasil continue to outweigh its risks..."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/4699149/Cervical-cancer-vaccine-unlikely-to-have-caused-seizures-in-girls-drug-watchdog.html

The Agency said in a statement: "Based on the current data, the Agency's Committee for Medicinal Products for Human Use (CHMP) has concluded that the cases are unlikely to be related to vaccination with Gardasil and that the benefits of Gardasil continue to outweigh its risks. Therefore the Committee is recommending that vaccination with Gardasil should continue in accordance with national vaccination programmes in Member States."

Emphasis added

I post this for any concerned parents who might be questioning whether to get this vaccine or not.

Sid

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

21. Mercola is a jackass and that article is full of bullshit.

It's like saying nobody should ever eat beets again because somewhere a batch of beets was infested with worms.

[ejpoeta]

25. I laugh when I hear commercials with wynonna judd where she says she

trusts alli because it's FDA approved. The FDA isn't working to protect us... they work for the drug companies. Just because the FDA approves it doesn't mean a damn thing regarding safety!! how many drugs have they approved that ended up getting yanked after a lot of people get hurt!!! it's like they go right to the guinea pig stage and people get to pay a pretty penny to be a guinea pig. it makes me sick.

[Fireweed247]

26. Thank God someone understands what I am talking about!!!

Thank you for your post. I wish I could recommend it 100 times.

[SidDithers]

27. Isn't this a thread about vaccines in Spain?...

Does the FDA control the EU now too?

Sid

[ejpoeta]

29. uh, the FDA approves drugs and then they are found out to have all kinds of problems.

that is what we are talking about.

[SidDithers]

30. It may be what you are talking about...

the rest of us are discussing the actions taken by EU officials after two teens in Spain got sick, following a Gardasil jab.

Does the FDA approve drugs in the European Union?

Sid