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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:03 PM
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Can you help me build the case against Reagan?
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 04:06 PM by Stevendsmith
I’m part of an informal liberal discussion group, and there is one member who may have bought into the myth of Reagan the great. I would like to provide a concise, footnoted case against Reagan summarizing his domestic and foreign policy crimes. Can you recommend credible books and articles that debunk the Reagan mythology? Chomsky comes immediately to mind, as much of my knowledge of the real Reagan comes from him. I have other sources I'll need to dig back into. Can you recommend any others?

Thanks for your help.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:07 PM
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1. Here is an excellent article "Ronald Reagan: Goodbye and Good Riddence"
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 04:08 PM by WI_DEM
Ronald Reagan has finally died at age 93. Predictably, politicians from both major parties have issued gushing tributes to this venal and vicious man, who was happy to slash workers' wages, see families thrown onto the street, support sadistic death squads and bomb other countries, if this was in the interests of the American ruling class.

Meanwhile, if recent history is any guide, the mainstream media will steer well clear of providing an accurate portrayal of Reagan, the man and the president. Last year, in a stunning act of cowardice, CBS canceled its much-publicized "docudrama" about Ron and Nancy, The Reagans, caving in to a campaign by the Republican National Committee, right-wing radio hosts, Fox News and conservative Internet sites. The movie was instead shown later to a much smaller audience on the Showtime cable network.

Conservatives attacked the film for portraying Reagan as homophobic, and Nancy as a domineering wife and mother who pulled the strings behind the scenes while abusing her children. They were apparently even more incensed that James Brolin, husband of liberal icon Barbra Streisand, played the part of Reagan.

While The Reagans was undoubtedly a monumental example of third-rate TV schlock, examples cited by conservatives of substantial inaccuracies didn't hold up. One complaint was that the movie showed Reagan ignoring the AIDS crisis because of its association with gay sex, and telling his wife, "They that live in sin shall die in sin."

But in real life, Reagan refused to mention AIDS publicly for six years, under-funded federal programs dealing with the disease and, according to his authorized biography, said, "Maybe the Lord brought down this plague," because "illicit sex is against the Ten Commandments."

C. Everett Koop, Reagan's surgeon general, later revealed, "because transmission of AIDS was understood primarily in the homosexual population and in those who abused intravenous drugs, the advisors to the president took the stand, they are only getting what they justly deserve."

In the movie, Nancy slaps her 5-year-old daughter, Patti. In real life, Patti wrote, "I first remember my mother hitting me when I was eight. It escalated as I got older and became a weekly, sometimes daily, event."

In the movie, Nancy insists, "Ketchup is a vegetable! It is not a meat, right? So it is a vegetable." In real life, Reagan directed the Department of Agriculture to classify ketchup as a vegetable in September 1981 in an attempt to slash $1.5 billion from the federal school lunch program.

Conservatives also criticized the movie for what it did not include. "Does it show he had the longest and strongest recovery in postwar history?" asked Reagan's White House press secretary Marlin Fitzwater.

But Reagan's economic policies were a disaster for working-class Americans. Reagan presided over the worst recession since the 1930s, and economic growth in the 1980s was lower than in the 1970s, despite the stimulus of military Keynesian policies, which created massive federal budget deficits and tripled the federal debt. By the end of the decade, real wages were down and the poverty rate had increased by 20 percent.

The real problem with The Reagans was not that it was too critical of the Reagan presidency, but that it was largely uncritical. According to The New York Times, the movie "paints as an exceptionally gifted politician and a moral man who stuck to his beliefs, often against his advisers' urgings."

Reagan was many things, but "gifted" was not one of them. "Poor dear," remarked British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, his closest international ally, "there's nothing between his ears." As for a "moral man," Reagan's morality included union busting--beginning with his dismissal of striking air traffic controllers in 1981--an unprecedented war on the poor, opposition to civil rights and support for apartheid South Africa. The "moral" Reagan trained and supported terrorists, including the Nicaraguan contras ("the moral equal of our Founding Fathers") who killed over 30,000 people, and Islamic radicals in Afghanistan who later formed the al-Qaeda network.

Reagan was also a liar. In November 1986, he publicly denied that his administration had been illegally selling arms to Iran and using the proceeds to fund the contras. One week later he was forced to retract this statement, but denied that the sale was part of a deal to free U.S. hostages. The following year, Reagan admitted that there had been an arms-for-hostages deal, but denied he knew anything about it.

http://counterpunch.com/gaspar06062004.html
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:09 PM
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2. Read Kevin Phillips' The Politics of Rich and Poor.
Ignore Chomsky because he uses language and issues not of interest to someone buying into the myth.

Also the Soviet Union began its economic slide in the late '60s and the Afghan War de-legitimized the Soviet government politically because they were caught in a lie about fighting US, Egyptian and Chinese forces there.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:11 PM
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3. 66 Things to Think About When Flying Into Reagan National Airport
The firing of the air traffic controllers, winnable nuclear war, recallable nuclear missiles, trees that cause pollution, Elliott Abrams lying to Congress, ketchup as a vegetable, colluding with Guatemalan thugs, pardons for F.B.I. lawbreakers, voodoo economics, budget deficits, toasts to Ferdinand Marcos, public housing cutbacks, redbaiting the nuclear freeze movement, James Watt.

Getting cozy with Argentine fascist generals, tax credits for segregated schools, disinformation campaigns, "homeless by choice," Manuel Noriega, falling wages, the HUD scandal, air raids on Libya, "constructive engagement" with apartheid South Africa, United States Information Agency blacklists of liberal speakers, attacks on OSHA and workplace safety, the invasion of Grenada, assassination manuals, Nancy's astrologer.

Drug tests, lie detector tests, Fawn Hall, female appointees (8 percent), mining harbors, the S&L scandal, 239 dead U.S. troops in Beirut, Al Haig "in control," silence on AIDS, food-stamp reductions, Debategate, White House shredding, Jonas Savimbi, tax cuts for the rich, "mistakes were made."

Michael Deaver's conviction for influence peddling, Lyn Nofziger's conviction for influence peddling, Caspar Weinberger's five-count indictment, Ed Meese ("You don't have many suspects who are innocent of a crime"), Donald Regan (women don't "understand throw-weights"), education cuts, massacres in El Salvador.

"The bombing begins in five minutes," $640 Pentagon toilet seats, African- American judicial appointees (1.9 percent), Reader's Digest, C.I.A.-sponsored car-bombing in Lebanon (more than eighty civilians killed), 200 officials accused of wrongdoing, William Casey, Iran/contra.

"Facts are stupid things," three-by-five cards, the MX missile, Bitburg, S.D.I., Robert Bork, naps, Teflon.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/19980302/corn
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:11 PM
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4. Some books
Check out this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Tear-Down-This-Myth-Distorted/dp/141659762X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235509616&sr=8-1


Another one is "sleepwalking through history". This was published around 1990.




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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:11 PM
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5. Search Reagan AIDS, Reagan Unions, Reagan Central America,
Reagan Poverty, Reagan Iran Contra. Those are the topics that will give you good hits.

And don't forget, when he was the prez of the Screen Actors Guild, he was ratting out liberals as Communists to McCarthy. Oh -- and didn't he start his presidential run at the site of a lynching and on purpose:

Reagan initiated his 1980 presidential campaign with an appearance in Philadelphia, Miss., where, in a famous case of lynching, three civil rights workers had been murdered in August 1964. In his speech there, Reagan signaled the reactionary tilt of his administration by speaking out in favor of “states’ rights,” terminology used by Southern Jim Crow politicians to justify their racist policies. By this means, Reagan was able to facilitate the transfer of former “Dixiecrat” racists into the Republican Party. Thereafter, Reagan and his cohorts succeeded in building electoral support by playing on the prejudices of many conservatized workers, whose resentments, during a period of falling living standards, had been stirred up by the meager gains of more oppressed sectors of the population in previous years—such as Blacks, women, gays, and the poor.

http://www.geocities.com/mnsocialist/reagon.html

I just found this re Reagan and his butchery in Central America: Reagan and the Salvadoran Baby Skulls (Robert Parry)

http://consortiumnews.com/2007/012907.html

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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:09 PM
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20. Don't forget Afganistan.... he is the one who helped Bin Laden
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:11 PM
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21. Carter did, too. n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:12 PM
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6. Start here.
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BeGoodDoGood Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:19 PM
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7. The Acting President
By Bob Scheiffer.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:33 PM
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8. I'm bookmarking this thread.
k&r, too.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:34 PM
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9. Second largest government in the history of the world
Second only to Dubya.

And he spawned such demons as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowicz.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:35 PM
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10. "Tear Down This Myth" -- Will Bunch
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:00 PM
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18. I will second that recommendation
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:38 PM
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11. yeah, let 'em talk to me
I graduated high school in 1982, right into the middle of the Reagan mess and have lived it ever since right up to today. I can give all the insight needed including the time I was homeless due to his rotten assed economic policies. :grr:
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:42 PM
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12. Wow, so much good stuff. Thanks! Please keep it coming! (n/t)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:45 PM
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13. Reagonomics. 'Nuff said!
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:47 PM
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14. When it comes to economic boom of the 80's
I like to point out the corresponding ballooning of the national debt. Anyone can give the illusion of prosperity if they don't have to worry about the bills coming due. If you give me your children's credit cards, as America essentially did to Reagan, then suddenly you will see me in expensive clothes, driving expensive cars and eating in expensive restaurants. You too might be tempted to congratulate me on my prosperity when it is your children who are financing it.

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:51 PM
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15. don't forget Iran-Contra
you can also count the criminals in the Reagan admin. for fun.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:54 PM
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16. He sent Rumsfeld to wheel and Deal with Saddam Hussein in the 1980's...
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:57 PM
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17. here ya go
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Narkos Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:04 PM
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19. This is a GREAT article
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 07:21 PM
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22. As it so happens, right now I'm reading "The Man Who Sold the World:
Ronald Reagan and the Betrayal of Main Street America" by WIlliam Kleinknecht. So far, very good and enlightening.

All other issues aside, right off the top I'd highly recommend it for reading by anyone who bought into the myth that what Reagan did helped reinforce and preserve the homey, small-town, hardworking midwestern American way of life. At the very outset, it describes how Reagan's own hometown of Dixon, Illinois has been irretrievably damaged by his policies and their legacy.
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