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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:52 AM
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Ordinary Customers Flagged as Terrorists
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032602088.html

Ordinary Customers Flagged as Terrorists

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 27, 2007; Page D01

Private businesses such as rental and mortgage companies and car dealers are checking the names of customers against a list of suspected terrorists and drug traffickers made publicly available by the Treasury Department, sometimes denying services to ordinary people whose names are similar to those on the list.

The Office of Foreign Asset Control's list of "specially designated nationals" has long been used by banks and other financial institutions to block financial transactions of drug dealers and other criminals. But an executive order issued by President Bush after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has expanded the list and its consequences in unforeseen ways. Businesses have used it to screen applicants for home and car loans, apartments and even exercise equipment, according to interviews and a report by the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights of the San Francisco Bay Area to be issued today.

"The way in which the list is being used goes far beyond contexts in which it has a link to national security," said Shirin Sinnar, the report's author. "The government is effectively conscripting private businesses into the war on terrorism but doing so without making sure that businesses don't trample on individual rights."

The lawyers' committee has documented at least a dozen cases in which U.S. customers have had transactions denied or delayed because their names were a partial match with a name on the list, which runs more than 250 pages and includes 3,300 groups and individuals. No more than a handful of people on the list, available online, are U.S. citizens.

Yet anyone who does business with a person or group on the list risks penalties of up to $10 million and 10 to 30 years in prison, a powerful incentive for businesses to comply. The law's scope is so broad and guidance so limited that some businesses would rather deny a transaction than risk criminal penalties, the report finds.

"The law is ridiculous," said Tom Hudson, a lawyer in Hanover, Md., who advises car dealers to use the list to avoid penalties. "It prohibits anyone from doing business with anyone who's on the list. It does not have a minimum dollar amount. . . . The local deli, if it sells a sandwich to someone whose name appears on the list, has violated the law."

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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:59 AM
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1. I've Got a Little List
I've Got a Little List (from "The Mikado")

SONG--KO-KO "The Lord High Executioner" with CHORUS OF MEN.

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list--I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed--who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs--
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs--
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat--
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like _that_--
And all third persons who on spoiling tete-a-tetes insist--
They'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be missed!

CHORUS. He's got 'em on the list--he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed--they'll none of
'em be missed.

There's the banjo serenader, and the others of his race,
And the piano-organist--I've got him on the list!
And the people who eat peppermint and puff it in your face,
They never would be missed--they never would be missed!
Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
And the lady from the provinces, who dresses like a guy,
And who "doesn't think she waltzes, but would rather like to
try";
And that singular anomaly, the lady novelist--
I don't think she'd be missed--I'm sure she'd not he missed!

CHORUS. He's got her on the list--he's got her on the list;
And I don't think she'll be missed--I'm sure
she'll not be missed!

And that Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife,
The Judicial humorist--I've got him on the list!
All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life--
They'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be missed.
And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as--What d'ye call him--Thing'em-bob, and
likewise--Never-mind,
And 'St--'st--'st--and What's-his-name, and also You-know-who--
The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you.
But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be
missed!

CHORUS. You may put 'em on the list--you may put 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed--they'll none of
'em be missed!

-- W. S. Gilbert

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:11 AM
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3. One of my favorites
A friend of mine is with the local Gilbert and Sullivan Society so I know them all.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:43 AM
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5. LOVE the one sung by Pish-Tush:
Our great Mikado, virtuous man,
When he to rule our land began,
Resolved to try
A plan whereby
Young men might best be steadied.
So he decreed, in words succinct,
That all who flirted, leered or winked
(Unless connubially linked),
Should forthwith be beheaded,
Beheaded, beheaded,
Should forthwith be beheaded.
And I expect you'll all agree
That he was right to so decree.
And I am right,
And you are right,
And all is right as right can be!
Chorus.
And you are right.
And we are right,
And all is right, is right as right can be!
Pish-Tush & Chorus.
And all is right as right can be,
Right as right can be!

Pish-Tush.
This stem decree, you'll understand,
Caused great dismay throughout the land!
For young and old
And shy and bold
Were equally affected.
The youth who winked a roving eye,
Or breathed a non-connubial sigh,
Was thereupon condemned to die —
He usually objected,
Objected, objected,
He usually objected.
And you'll allow, as I expect,
That he was right to so object.
And I am right,
And you are right,
And everything is quite correct!
Chorus.
And you are right,
And we are right,
And everything is quite, is quite correct!
Pish-Tush & Chorus.
And everything is quite correct,
All is quite correct!


Pish-Tush.

And so we straight let out on bail
A convict from the county jail,
Whose head was next
On some pretext
Condemned to be mown off,
And made him Headsman, for we said,
"Who's next to be decapited
Cannot cut off another's head
Until he's cut his own off,
His own off, his own off,
Until he's cut his own off."
And we are right, I think you'll say,
To argue in this kind of way;
And I am right,
And you are right,
And all is right — too-loo-ral-lay!
Chorus.
And you are right,
And we are right,
And all is right — too-loo-ral, loo-ral-lay!
Pish-Tush & Chorus.
And you are right,
And we are right,
And all is right!

Exeunt Chorus
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:00 AM
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2. When you buy a house, your name is literally researched via the Patriot Act
in both the title work and for the mortgage. The papers say "Patriot Act" on them. You have to produce photo ID for the mortgage package which is photocopied and given to the lender as well.

And let's say you have more than $350,000 in cash lying around and you want to buy the house in cash, you are immediately flagged under the Patriot Act and you are researched as a potential terrorist.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:23 AM
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6. Wow. I didn't know that; there was no such thing as the Patriot Act
when we bought ours.
So if you have cash, you are considered a potential terrorist? I wonder if that applies to (R)'s, as they're supposedly the ones with the most cash. Maybe if you're a war profiteer you're disqualified from that list.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:21 AM
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4. Recommended
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 02:11 PM
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7. .
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