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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:05 PM
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Speaker Pelosi on Rachel Maddow's now. Truth Commission discussion.
She is opposed to immunity (which the Truth Commission may allow). Did I get that right? Opposed?

It looks very good from what her sentiment appears to be during this discussion.

She wants a criminal investigation. With prosecutions!


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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:08 PM
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1. Nancy Pelosi looks like she's crapping her pants...
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 09:08 PM by originalpckelly
on the question of being told about Bush's activities.

No real answer, OMG! She's so full of crap.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:08 PM
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3. They WEREN"T briefed!
Wow. This is interesting. Thank you Rachel!

So she's not complicit in the torture infor.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:10 PM
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5. No, then she said she was told they thought it was legal...
just didn't tell her they were doing it.

Why wouldn't you say something about the President thinking torture is legal?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:12 PM
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8. She was not allowed publically nor privately. She says.
Absolutely, according to her.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:15 PM
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11. I know, so what if they had told they were torturing people, flat out...
and they said she couldn't talk about it?

And what would they do to her if she had talked about it? Legal prosecution?

So you could get in trouble for talking about something illegal?

Anyone else following this weird shit?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:08 PM
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2. Quite the opposite
She will quash this because she is being dishonest about the issue, IMO.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:09 PM
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4. Don't say that. I was so happy.
But I have to say, I'm highly skeptical.

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:10 PM
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7. Without the proof, we don't know.
She's a politician, and logic dictates that she would lie to protect herself form any charges.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:13 PM
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9. Something weird went on here. EOM. Just look at the way she talks about it.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:16 PM
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13. It's hard to know when someone is lying. But she is airing something.
It seems like she's opening a dialogue on this subject. Of course that doesn't mean she has to follow through. Damn, it's hard to watch, knowing the extent of the crimes committed.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:17 PM
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15. And look at how afraid she was...
did you watch her while Rachael was asking the first question down this street?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:10 PM
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6. Color me cynical, but I'll believe it when I see it
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:13 PM
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10. I think that's the sane way to be. But she IS making it clear.
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 09:13 PM by Gregorian
She was basically gagged.

We'll see. I'm cynical as well. Please let us be wrong.


Rachel is great!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:16 PM
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12. I think it's scary they can gag Congress like that.
It's making the legislative branch subservient to the executive.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:18 PM
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17. Interesting point. Where are the constitutional brains on this one, I wonder.
I'm sure that went under the heading of "National security". Barf.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:39 PM
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18. Problem is that in time of war that happens
that said, it does do exactly what you said.

Imperial presidencies, I hate them

But both parties are in love with Empire
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 10:18 PM
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19. Bush/Cheney got some very slick advice-- created the Gang of Eight
so that Bush could claim on some technical level that somebody in Congress was getting some kind of briefing, after he radically restricted information sharing early on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight

The membership changed-- discussion at dKos of earlier members.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/4/125731/124/587/394019
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:16 PM
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14. Rachel is a super interviewer. Incisive, persistent, respectful. We are so fortunate to have her.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:17 PM
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16. Great interview Rachel!
I'm very surprised and enthusiastic about what Mrs. P. is saying. But damn I hate to have to wait til July. But on the otherhand, by then there will be so much info out about the Bush admin.'s crimes that they'll have to investigate and prosecute. I so hope she's not lying.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 10:21 PM
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20. Its a delay tactic. Pelosi is weak.
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