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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 04:50 AM
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Poll question: How do you think the Employee Free Choice Act will pass?
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 04:52 AM by Earth Bound Misfit
Blue Dog Democrats in the House are asking House Dem leaders to postpone a vote on the EFCA until after the Senate votes on it, claiming they don’t want to end up voting on something that might not even become law, citing "backlash from their constituencies" (more likely their corporate masters). Business groups are fiercely lobbying not only Republicans, but also Dems they consider "moderate", such as Mark Warner (VA) and new Colorado Sens. Michael Bennet and Mark Udall, Webb (VA), Bayh (IN), and Bill Nelson (FL), along with the obvious targets, Mark Pryor and Blanche Lincoln from Arkansas (Wal-Mart)

Will Senators Specter, Snowe & Collins all vote aye as they did for the Stimulus bill? Two Republican Senators that will be in a position to be pressured to vote for the bill are Senators Grassley and Vitter. Will either/both of their votes be turned? Then there's Senator Voinovich who is retiring and therefore can vote aye with no political consequence.

Will Sen Kennedy be well enough to vote? Should he ***GASP*** retire, and ensure us that crucial vote?

Or will all the 'Dogs sell out to their corporate masters, and kill any chance for anything more than a watered-down compromise bill being passed?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 05:55 AM
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1. until we eliminate institutional Fascism and stop Corporatist Bribery .. it's the same old shit
we will slowly, but at an ever increasing rate.. LOSE OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS,
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 09:29 AM
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2. Shameless self kick n/t
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 07:08 PM
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3. Proud to K&R!

Great choices. Thanks for the poll.

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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 07:58 PM
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4. TY, OS...I saw a poll on KOS & "borowed" some of their choices
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 07:59 PM by Earth Bound Misfit
& added a few of my own.

Hope all is well with your mom.

EBM

Edit spelling: boorowed? :dunce:
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:11 PM
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5. Musical Interlude...
Im just a poor boy and nobody loves me:cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irp8CNj9qBI
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:02 PM
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13. SHAMELESS KICK/ MUSICAL INTERLUDE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqU9RZqvFKY

If there's a rock n roll heaven, well you know they got a helluva band!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:13 PM
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6. God, I would LOVE to see a real filibuster.. It would be SUCH a massive
flop. . But I don't think it's going to happen.

Harry hasn't the stones.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:37 PM
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7. Not if George McGovern has anything to do with it.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:56 AM
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10. Heh...You're kidding, right?
Ol' George sold his soul to Berman & Co. Hope he got a fair price.

McGovern was elected Senator by the eastern, populist half of the state but he has always harbored serious conservative instincts that he rarely indulged himself in. One of them was his distaste for unions, a western SD mania/paranoia. He managed to keep this under control (and under the radar) until, as Perlstein says, George Meany took the AFL-CIO to Nixon, a move I personally never have and never will forgive him for.

It's one of the subplots of NIXONLAND: the bright-eyed anti-war reform Demorats who formed the core of McGovern's movement became locked in a civil war with the old-line union leaders who were as uncomfortable with reform as they were comfortable with the Vietnam War. It got ugly. Long story short: AFL-CIO president George Meany, who chose to remain neutral in the 1972 presidential election but who obviously favored Richard Nixon, got the last word. At a Steelworkers convention in September, he explained that the "Democratic Party has been taken over by people named Jack who look like Jills and smell like Johns."

snip

None of which completely explains McGovern's right-wing TP's. I mean, in the old days he might not care for unions someplace deep in his soul but he would never have parroted conservative propaganda word-for-word and shamelessly attach his liberal credentials to it...unless....

Glorioski, Mr Holmes! Could it be there's a...DLC-er in the woodpile? Why, YES! And it's our old buddy Al F.

Ian Welsh at Firedoglake unearthed a secret to this strange betrayal of his progressive brothers and sisters: strange bedfellows.

It's safe to say George McGovern is a patsy for anti-union lobbyist Rick Berman, the leader of a $30 million front group interfering in key Senate and House races this cycle.

McGovern sits on the board of FirstJobs, another pro-business Berman front group, alongside the likes of Bush Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao, oil billionaire T. Boone Pickens, the editorial page director of the Washington Times, and the head of Sam's Club.

Actually, I find the most telling of McGovern's fellow board members to be Al From. I wonder if From regales McGovern at board meetings with his conviction that McGovern turned the Democratic parter into a monstrous aggregation "defined principally by weakness abroad and elitist, interest-group liberalism at home." One of the FDL commenters asked, "How old is he now? Seriously...is age-related stuff a factor here?" That's not quite it. The fact is, George McGovern is one of those Democrats who, along with Al From, has never had much use for the AFL-CIO.


More proof if you needed it that DLC poison has contaminated even the best in the Democratic party.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:45 PM
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8. is it out of committee and ready for a vote?
a bill is just a piece of paper until it is up for an actual vote.

remember dennis and his bills about impeachment?

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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:39 AM
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9. Greg Sargent wrote on his blog last week

Blue Dog Democrats in the House have asked House Dem leaders to postpone a vote on the Employee Free Choice Act until after the Senate votes on it, and the Democratic leadership has agreed, a senior House Dem aide tells me.

The discussions are likely to disappoint some in the labor movement, who see Employee Free Choice as their top priority and had hoped the House would act quickly and pass a strong bill before the Senate passes a weaker version. Proponents and foes of the measure alike say the Senate is expected to be the major battleground over the bill because of the tight Dem majority.

Blue Dog Dems have told House leader Steny Hoyer that they don’t want a vote on Employee Free Choice before the Senate because they fear they’ll end up having to vote for two different versions of the measure, compounding the political damage they may face in moderate districts, the aide says.

“Their concern is that the House will pass something, then the Senate will take up the bill and do something different...“The Blue Dogs don’t want to end up voting on something that won’t even become law...


I'm not liking this. I predict "other"--Blue dogs abandon ship, Dems weakened by defections cave to corporate pressure, a POS bill gets passed & the working man gets SCREWED....AFV@%INGGAIN

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:05 AM
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11. It has no chance.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:18 AM
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12. Can you expand on that?
It would be greatly appreciated, ty.:)
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:44 PM
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14. SHAMELESS KICK/ MUSICAL INTERLUDE...
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 12:46 PM by Earth Bound Misfit
For the weekend crowd,one last (desperate) attempt to elicit responses from those who support Labor here at DU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7_U-zj2gfE

I thought to myself what could that mean?
Am I going crazy or is this just a dream?
Now, wait a minute
I know I'm lying in a field of grass somewhere
so it's all in my head
and then.. I heard her say one more time:



Spill the wine and take that pearl, Spill the wine and take that pearl
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