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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:44 PM
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Majority of Americans Favor Raising Taxes for those Making over $250,000 a Year.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:53 PM
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1. And yet the piggies on CNBC have been squealing all day long...
...effin hypocrites that they are...
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:55 PM
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3. I can only imagine what Fox Business is saying. They make CNBC look like the DNC
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:54 PM
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2. There should be a national salary cap. That would fix this entire mess.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:56 PM
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4. How would that work?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:00 PM
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8. I think you could set something for CEO's based on performance
and then work the way down the corporate ladder. It would remove jealousy in the workplace.

They already do it in professional sports and it seems to work quite well.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:16 PM
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29. Ahh - so have a cap for an entire corporation? (like a baseball team?). Hmm..
I wonder who will do well, and who will get the leavings?
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:58 PM
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5. 250k says that the 51% favoring tax raises makes under 250k
just saying.

thats the same as asking men what they think of women's issues, or Sarah Palin what she thinks of gay rights.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:31 PM
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10. How is it the same? Don't people making under 250K pay taxes? Or is it that only rich people's
opinions count?
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:36 PM
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12. I'm saying its always
far easier to raise someone else's taxes than your own. Now, if they asked everyone if they wanted the taxes in thier income bracket raised then they might have only gotten 5% to say they wanted tax raises.

Everyone wants thier own taxes cut and another person's taxes to be higher.

In the words of Cullen Hightower, "There's always somebody who is paid too much, and taxed too little - and it's always somebody else."

So, I have a question for you, name someone who makes over 250k a year that wants to be taxed more? Other than Warren Buffet that is.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:40 PM
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I believe Al Gore said he could afford more taxes. Why does it matter if they want to be taxed more?...
The rich have seen their income double in the last 8 years and their taxes decrease.
Why shouldn't they pay their fair share?
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:14 PM
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19. The rich have the ability to transfer funds out of the country.
The more we try to tax them the more loopholes they will find. Heck, we can't even trust our own congressmen to pay thier fair share of taxes.

James C. Green - Convicted of tax evasion 1997

Frederick Richmond - Charged with tax evasion in 1978

etc.. the list goes on and on until the most recent two: Tom Daschle and Nancy Killefer.

If we can't trust the wealthy in our own party to pay more taxes what makes you think the rich who do not agree with our sense of social justice will actually pay?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:12 PM
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22. If they want to be criminals, let them. Citizens are supposed to avoid all the taxes they can
legally avoid. Why do you assume the rich do not agree with our sense of social justice?
Project much?
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:03 PM
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23. i never said all rich, don't put words in my mouth
Yet you somehow think that everyone will pay as much in taxes as the government says. There are plenty of legal ways to hide income, and plenty of legal loopholes that the rich have access to.

We need to play it smart. Take too much from them and the revenue source will just go somewhere else.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:53 PM
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33. IF we raise the taxes on their income above $250,000 by 3% the rich will leave?
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 02:53 PM by Vincardog
Are you serious?

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Where are they going to go? France?
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:16 PM
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30. Bill Gates, Bill Clinton
Barack Obama, John Edwards, John Kerry have all said they should be taxed at a higher rate.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:34 PM
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11. i don't think that warren buffet or bill gates make under 250K- but i could be mistaken.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:04 PM
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24. Warren Buffet is one fo the few who would gladly pay more taxes.
Please see my later post in this thread.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:00 PM
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6. and its not like there will be a zillion percent jump right at $250k, thats where it starts
There won't be a giant jump in tax rates right at $250K, its just that the tax increases (reductions of deductions is what I've been told they will actually be) will begin at that point. So the guy at $255,000 isn't going to see that next five grand taxed out of existance, it will just be taxed at a somewhat higher rate than the preceeding quarter of a million dollars in (after deduction) earnings.
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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:42 PM
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17. it will be an increase to 39.6% from 36%
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:17 PM
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31. only on the portion over $250 grand, not the whole sheebang
for those not familiar with our marginal system, this link explains to perfectly.

http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:00 PM
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7. ...until THEY'RE making over $250,000 a year
All this does is show a strong percentage of people making less than $250k
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ohgooglemebaby Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:11 PM
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9. I wish it could be for those making over $95,000...
I think even a combined income of around 100 grand is enough for a very pleasant life; even with kids.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:36 PM
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13. you'd be mistaken.
at least in most major metro areas and their suburbs around the country.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:11 PM
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26. Not likely. Make too much, you are OK, make too little, you qualify for help
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 02:13 PM by jmg257
make "almost enough", and you get screwed big time.

2 people making $95K with kids et. al. ain't guaranteeing anyone "very pleasant lives".
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:36 PM
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14. hell yes, they should be.
I favor raising the taxes for those making $250,000.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:40 PM
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15. If 95% of Americans make less than $250K why is it only 51% favor
higher taxes. Could rasmussen not juggle the numbers enough or
are Americans just plain stupid.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:42 PM
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18. The Latter.
Im sure some of the former too though.

You also have to understand that most Americans dont undrestand the economy.

I for one get really confused, but i do at least know that tax cuts dont help when you need to stimulate the economy.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:22 PM
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32. they are convinced their employer will have to fire them.
The news media is doing a very poor job (surprise surprise) of explaining that only about 1 in 10,000 small businesses report income as individuals and even of those only a very small percentage make over $250 grand. Nearly ALL small businesses pay under the corporate tax structure and this plan has absolutely NOTHING to do with corporate taxes, only INDIVIDUAL FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:23 PM
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21. Those people in the 31% who make less than $250K/yr. always
vote with the belief that they will win the lottery and be rich some day. Not that they will earn that amount through work, but that they just might pick the right numbers at the convenience mart on the way home some Friday night.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:24 PM
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34. many people don't understand the tax system
and assume it is impossible to raise taxes on those over 250 K without raising everyones taxes. Other feel raising taxes are a slippery slope and if they allow any tax increase then congress will go all tax crazy.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:41 PM
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16. CLASS WARFARE! CLASS WARFARE!!
I assume that's all you're hearing already on Fux, with the others soon to follow... :eyes:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:19 PM
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20. And yet all the analysts are freaking out over this...
:shrug:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:07 PM
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25. There's that "dirty-thirty" again..
:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:13 PM
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27. If Ras polls those in favor at 51%, that means that it is really at 57% support.
Here's their poll for the GE, the day before the vote:

Final Fox News/Rasmussen polling in five other key battleground states – Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Ohio and Virginia – also will be released today. McCain has an identical one-point lead in Florida but lags behind in Colorado and Virginia. The race is tied in Missouri and Ohio.

Here's the comparison with their poll and the actual numbers state by state.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/final_rasmussen_poll_results_presidential_election
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:16 PM
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28. I support putting a K250 cap on salaries
Or at least putting a cap somewhere--greater economic minds than mind can decide where exactly the ceiling should be.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:30 PM
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35. If I made more than $250K, I would still be for it
If this is the ultimate price to pay to be wealthy in one of the most wealthiest nations in the world, then so be it. Why not give back to the country that made this possible?

It isn't punishment, it's patriotism.
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