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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:23 PM
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Obama says he wants to be held accountable and he apologizes when he makes a mistake. AWB (assault
weapons ban) law will hurt the Democratic Party if it passes and he signs it, even Pelosi with her pro gun-control past recognizes that and opposes efforts to renew the AWB.

Obama has an opportunity to silence his critics and earn political capital by saying, “I did not fully understand all aspects of efforts to ban semiautomatic firearms with the Assault Weapons Ban. I oppose its renewal and stand by my promise ’I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away.’
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:32 PM
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1. Jody, when are you going to start a positive Post about our President?
Going all the way back to the primaries, I have yet to see one.

Thank you.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:34 PM
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3. How is this post negative?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:51 AM
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16. Search by author is your friend.
It's not just guns. It's everything and anything, about any issue.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:39 PM
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6. What is negative about trying to deal with an issue that continues to dog we Dems? n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:33 PM
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2. Obama didn't say anything. Holder did.
His response, through Gibbs, should be, "We are considering all efforts to reduce gun crime, but A.G. Holder misspoke when he implied that we were going to revive the Assault Weapons Ban. This administration supports the lawful right to bear arms."
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:37 PM
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5. Obama's site supports renewing the AWB. n/t
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:36 PM
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4. Assault Weapons should be banned.
I don't want some backwoods hick running around with an M4. The thought of that scares the shit out of me.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:39 PM
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7. I don't want backwoods hicks running around doing lots of things.
Unfortunately, there's a pesky thing called a Constitution preventing me from stopping them.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:47 PM
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9. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say one can own an assault rifle.
The second amendment says "a well regulated militia". A person is not a well regulated militia.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:14 PM
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10. There's a difference between an assault rifle and...
a assault weapon. An assault rifle is capable of full automatic fire while an assault weapon isn't. A big problem with the old AWB was that it was based more on cosmetics then on actual function. One could kill just as many people just as well with a legal hunting rifle as one could with a banned rifle.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:18 PM
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11. Missed that whole Heller thing last year did we?
Where SCOTUS confirmed that the second confers an Individual right that does not require membership or participation in a militia?

As far as I'm concerned "that hick"... if he can afford the $18,000 to $25,000 for that M-4 (if he can even find one for sale anymore), passes the extensive FBI background check, pays the $200 tax stamp, waits the normal 6 to 8 month period for a class III weapon, has his fingerprints on file with the FBI and Homeland Security and is romping around on his own property and shooting with a safe backstop is fine with me.

Why would you care what he owns?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:30 PM
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14. Sure it does.
It says the right to bear arms shall not be restricted.

It does not say anything about the bearer of said arms being in a militia.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:44 PM
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8. An AWB wouldn't apply to an M4
The M4 falls under the jurisdiction of laws passed back in the 1930's and which are still on the books.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:21 PM
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12. Define "assault weapon".
Explosives and automatic weapons are already heavily regulated. What danger do you feel is posed by a firearm that fires one round per trigger pull?

The AWB is legislation written by people who nothing about guns. Most of the banned weapons are banned based on what they look like, rather than any functionality that would make them any more dangerous (or different) than other weapons.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:25 PM
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13. Obama just needs to leave this be- no statement to the gun loons- or to responsible folks
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 03:26 PM by depakid
who'd like to see regulation restored.

Holder on the other hand is showing himself to be a loose cannon- and could use a talking to.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 07:05 PM
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15. Obama's supports "making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent." If Obama ignores
Holder's statement as you suggest, then one can only conclude that Obama supports renewing the AWB as stated on his White House site, THE AGENDA • URBAN POLICY
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