John Bolton at CPAC: The Benefits of Nuking Chicago

[Octafish]

CPAC is filled with vampires.

John Bolton at CPAC: The Benefits of Nuking Chicago

— By Jonathan Stein
MotherJones.com
Thu February 26, 2009 9:27 AM PST

UN Ambassador John Bolton believes the security of the United States is at dire risk under the Obama administration. And before a gathering of conservatives in Washington on Thursday morning, he suggested, as something of a joke, that President Barack Obama might learn a needed lesson if Chicago were destroyed by a nuclear bomb.

Appearing at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), the nation's largest annual conference of conservative activists, Bolton, one of the hardest hardliners of the George W. Bush administration, spoke at length about Obama's naiveté and how various nations – Russia, North Korea, Iran – will be exploiting the new president. The most dramatic moment of his speech may have been when he cracked a joke about the nuking of Obama's hometown.

"The fact is on foreign policy I don't think President Obama thinks it's a priority," said Bolton. "He said during the campaign he thought Iran was a tiny threat. Tiny, tiny depending on how many nuclear weapons they are ultimately able to deliver on target. Its, uh, its tiny compared to the Soviet Union, but is the loss of one American city" – here Bolton shrugged his shoulders impishly – "pick one at random – Chicago – is that a tiny threat?"

Bolton wasn't the only one who thought this was funny. The room erupted in laughter and applause. Was this conservative catharsis, with rightwingers delightfully imagining the destruction of a city that represents Obama? Or perhaps they were venting vengeance with their laughter. (Bolton is no stranger to inflammatory remarks. He once infamously quipped, "There are 38 floors to the UN building in New York. If you lost 10 of them, it wouldn't make a bit of difference.")

At CPAC, the Right's most fevered beliefs about Obama live on, with speakers portraying him as a radical liberal who wants to compromise American values, hand hard-earned taxpayer dollars to the shifty poor, and, as Bolton repeatedly pointed out, weaken America's defense.

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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/02/john-bolton-cpac-benefits-nuking-chicago

Who, besides a monster, would applaud the nuclear annihilation of an American city?

[villager]

1. well, no -- they're monsters

they always have been, and there is, at last, a little more daylight being poured on them...

[Swede]

6. Amazing what you find under a rock.

Well,maybe not that amazing.

[Octafish]

25. Philip Zelikow is another one.

Catastrophic Terrorism - Elements of a National Policy

It's almost as if...as if...as if they look forward to these things.

[babylonsister]

2. Wow, he's more unhinged than usual. What is it called when

an American hopes for the annihilation of a city?

[ProfessorGAC]

17. How Can You Tell, Sis?

If he's already completely unhinged, how can you tell he's MORE unhinged? I mean, come on! He's completely off his rocker.
GAC

[Octafish]

It's called treason.

Those who practice it are traitors.

John Bolton - The Armageddon Man

The guy's figured out an angle for making a buck off the end of the world.

[onenote]

54. not under the constitution, of course

it was stupid when the rw'ers labelled everyone who criticized the us and bush as a traitor. Its no less tiresome when we do it here everytime someone says something critical of Obama or the Democrats.

I have a sad feeling that respect for the First Amendment is at an all-time low. I blame the repubs for that in large measure, but we can and should be better than them

[Octafish]

55. Bolton, the neocons and their beard, Smirko McCokespoon, have reduced the national security.

They've looted the Treasury, pushed the middle class to penury, and lied the nation into an illegal, immoral, unncessary and costly war. That's more than the NAZIs and the Commies ever managed.

Besides, I ascribe to Adlai E. Stevenson's definition:

"Corruption in public office is treason."

[indepat]

47. It's called if this jerk lived in one of many other places in the world, he just might be

summarily executed for uttering such a statement in public: at least that's what I would have done to someone uttering such a statement if I were emperor. :P

[Kittycat]

3. Why isn't he in jail?

[Octafish]

33. Excellent question.

dcg2 brought it up, back in '05:

White House covering up acts of treason by campaign contributors?

Thank you for understanding the situation, Kittycat.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

4. WHAT THE FUCK!?

:nuke: :mad: :nuke:

[Octafish]

34. Sort of puts Flush Limpnut's 'Hope He Fails' sentiments on the back burner.

Meet John Bolton's Replacement -- Robert "First Strike" Joseph, a Neocon for Nukes

May they spend eternity doing disco together in hell.

[marmar]

5. I abhor violence, but.......

..... I'd love to drag Yosemite John up and down the stairs of the John Hancock building by his moustache.

[shadowknows69]

41. I can't even express my violent fantasies about these fiends lest I scare the kids.

I've never known such hate in my soul as that which these monsters have created there.

[niyad]

7. "something of a joke"???? what in the HELL is funny about nuking a city?? WHY isn't this lunatic in

an asylum, which is where he clearly belongs?

[liberal N proud]

8. These fuckers are dangerous and need to be locked up

before they do something really stupid.

[malaise]

14. Ding ding

but they've been doing stupid things for the past eight years.

[bdamomma]

20. They don't think twice destroying or killing people.

[phantom power]

9. 9/11 was like crack cocain to the GOP.

It was instant addiction. It caused America to go temporarily insane, and for 8 years they had carte blanche to pursue every hare-brained domestic and foreign policy on their wish-list.

That's why these ghouls keep hoping for another episode of mass terrorism. They want their carte blanche back.

[ErinBerin84]

10. what a freakfest.

[sinkingfeeling]

11. All of the Neocons have been deeply shocked that war and expansion of the American Empire aren't

the President's first priorities.

[niyad]

12. gee, you bearded cretin, isn't that rather terrorist talk? or is it okay coming from repukes?

let's see, one says that the building housing the NYT should have been bombed, another suggested bombing SF--and these bastards are still on the loose?

[MiniMe]

13. Sounds like a threat to the President. Agent Mike? Calling agent Mike.

What if Obama were home at the time.

[Parker CA]

15. Well, if there is another attack, the FBI has a good place to start for motive.This guy is unhinged.

[Mme. Defarge]

16. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful ...

They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our country and our people and neither do we." GWB 2004

[gkhouston]

23. and they're after our precious bodily fluids. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Hey John how about we get you, your buddies at CPAC

and your families down into the Nevada Test Range... and let go... with you in the middle of it.

Oh wait, did I post that? Essentially that is what he's wishing on others

I hate these people. Well not quite hate, but highly dislike them. They are cowards of the worst kind

GO DIE for my cause.. me do it? Have other priorities

These are the lowest scum on earth, lower than whale shit in fact, and the worst cowards ever

[bdamomma]

19. oh boy these are sick people John Bolton another sick neo con.

they should be rounded up and arrested. They are our domestic enemies. I wouldn't put anything past them they are full of venom and want to see America fail.

[LeftinOH]

21. Those people got boners on Sept 11th; they loved the thrill of it....n/t

[gkhouston]

22. I *might* suggest the likely profitability of nuking Bolton.

But clearly, he's already gone there. :crazy:

[Nickster]

24. Screw you and your irrelevant ass, John Bolton.

[KamaAina]

26. Call Homeland Security at once

besides, what would conservatroid economists* do if their holy temple at the U of C were reduced to radioactive ash?

[backscatter712]

27. Yosemite Sam rides again!

[Beetwasher]

28. Obama Should SERIOUSLY TREAT THIS AS A TERRORIST THREAT

I'm not kidding. This is not a joke. This is "joking on the square".

[onenote]

40. as a joke your post would be kinda funny. but as a serious comment

its just sad

[Beetwasher]

43. If You Don't Take These Lunatics Seriously

You're deluded. But we already knew that. These sorts of "jokes" by these scumbags are inciteful. But I guess this sort of joke by Bolton is ok w/ you, huh?

And that's pathetic and ignorant.

[onenote]

45. treating every critical crappy snarky dumbass comment by these guys as grounds for a federal case

is what's pathetic and ignorant. And contrary to the constitution, as if that mattered to you

[Beetwasher]

56. Uhh No Jeenyus, Inciting Violence Is Illegal

And not protected by the constitution. But you go ahead and keep defending these scumbags. It tells everyone all they need to know about you.

We all know how these radical rightwinf scum have such great senses of humor and of course never actually carry through with violent threats and domestic terrorism. Nah, that never happens with these scum that you so gleefully defend.

[onenote]

57. Try educating yourself as to what constitutes actionable incitement

Here's a citation.http://supreme.justia.com/us/395/444/case.html

And you go ahead and keep trashing the Constitution. It tells everyone all they need to know about you.

[Beetwasher]

62. Keep Defending Scumbags Like Bolton And Jokes About Nuking American Cities

Makes you look great! You and Bolton, peas in a pod. :rofl:

[onenote]

64. and you apparently sleep next to that great defender of the Constitution, George W. Bush

LIke chimpy, you just regard the Constitution as a piece of paper.

[Beetwasher]

65. LOL! Laugh It Up, Let's Joke About Blowing Up Federal Buildings Too!

And killing abortion doctors! And lynching black people, because rightwing loonies never take this stuff seriously, they realize it's really just hilarious stuff!! All protected by the constitution, right? Ha ha ha ha ha.

You're in great company. :eyes:

[onenote]

66. you must have been like a pig in mud the last eight years

what with chimpy and his fellow repubs questioning the patriotism of anyone who dared express a contrary word about their policies and arresting "funny looking" people based on a off hand remark or bit of black humor.
Here's one for you: Presumably you'd have locked up this guy and thrown away the key:

“They always holler at us to get an education. And now I have already received my draft classification as 1-A and I have got to report for my physical this Monday morning. I am not going. If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J. They are not going to make me kill my black brothers.”


Fortunately, your stunted view of the Constitution didn't prevail. He was not jailed.

And one more for good measure:
Charles Evers and the NAACP could be found civilly liable for speech advocating the boycott of certain white-owned businesses. Evers, field secretary for the NAACP in Mississippi, had given impassioned speeches encouraging fellow African-Americans to participate in the boycott. He made some highly charged statements, such as “If we catch any of you going in any of them racist stores, we're gonna break your damn neck.”

You presumably wouldn't find his speech to be "protected". But then again, you'd be wrong.

[Beetwasher]

67. You're Making Bolton Proud!!

Keep up the good work!

Is it his moustache that tickles your fancy?

[onenote]

68. so you don't disagree with my point then. You'd have locked up Robert Watts and CHarles Evers

You make chimpy and cheney proud. Tell them that when you cuddle up with them tonight.

[Beetwasher]

69. So His Moustache Just Tickles You?

:shrug:

Your idiotic strawmen and defense of rightwing violent rhetoric are beyond pathetic. Where did I ever say to "lock up" anyone, jeenyus?

[onenote]

70. you've got nothing do you. not one substantive argument or even a shadow of one

That, my friend, is truly pathetic. You care not a bit about the First Amendment. That is beyond truly pathetic.

Where is the strawman? You think Bolton should be arrested for making a stupid, asinine joke about blowing up a city. THe supreme court has held that far more specific sounding threats, clearly not made jokingly, are protected speech. Bridge the gulf for me einstein. I'd love to hear your first amendment jurisprudence. That at least would be funnier than your lame attempts at humor on this thread.

[Beetwasher]

71. So It Must Be His Bad Breath?

What is it you find so attractive about Mr. Bolton besides his sense of humor that is?

Argument? Against your bullshit strawmen??? No, I'm more fascinated w/ your love affair with Mr. Bolton.

[onenote]

72. I'm done. Say hi to your daddy, Dickwad Cheney, for me

[Beetwasher]

74. Did You Meet At A Swingers Convention Perhaps?

Does he prefer the bronze or stainless steel nipple clamps? Oh, sorry, maybe you wear the clamps?

[spanone]

29. please tell me he's a FORMER un ambassador....PLEASE

[pdxmom]

30. This kinds of junk is said every year at CPAC. They promote the

destruction of liberal cities, wish death on liberal/progressives/Democrats, and come up with more hypocrisy than we can actually imagine. This is just par for the course for this group.

[Warpy]

31. People in rural America who are lied to 24/7

by news, talk radio, and preachers would all love to see the nuclear annihilation of sinful big cities full of pointy headed college boys and fast talking bankers.

Bolton knows his people well.

[Warren DeMontague]

32. Was he on before, or after, "Joe The Plumber"?

I swear, the fucking brain trust over in GOP-land is just amazing, these days.

[izzybeans]

35. I challenge John Bolton to come to my block in Chicago and say it to my face.

fascist fuck.

[City Lights]

36. Is he threatening the POTUS, and the United States of America?

How long will Gitmo be open? :evilgrin:

[mod mom]

37. I still don't trust the neocons are finished. Remember the Minot AFB nuke incident ?

I truly believe they are low enough scum that they would be willing to do something that awful.

Would someone please arrest these traitors!

[Crunchy Frog]

38. And we're the ones who hate America?

:crazy:

[malaise]

39. CPAC - the Nuts

and Boltons of the Republicanistas.

[mod mom]

42. Unfortunately the "nuts" yielded a lot of power and access.

[malaise]

51. For all their power and access

they were kicked out of power by the American people. All they're doing now is screaming like spoiled children who can't get their own way.

We give them way too much airplay.

[librechik]

44. huh--he's escalating from suggesting we blow up the top 11 floors of the UN building

he ought to be in jail as accessory to a million murders.

[Sebastian Doyle]

46. I'd actually be in favor of nuking CPAC

Provided Thom Hartmann had a chance to get away first. He always goes to that freak show for some reason, and has an endless parade of lunatics on his show when he's there.

[bleever]

48. Incendiary, treasonous John Bolton.

He should be frozen in carbonite.

[Prometheus Bound]

49. There's a few people even here who parrot his talking points on Afghanistan and Iran.

So I'm not surprised he was able to pack a room with right-wing wackos who would find something like that funny.

They're fucking demented.

[vinylsolution]

50. This was a terrorist threat....

.... Bolton should be arrested and questioned by the FBI for this.

Does he have prior knowledge of something yet to happen?

[Jamastiene]

52. If any one of us had said anything like that about any American city,

we would be tasered, locked up, and studied intensively by a team of psychiatrists and psychologists to prove we were sane enough to stand trial for terrorism AND treason.

WHY THE FUCK do Republicans get away with threatening entire US cities AND the President of the United States of America (two different presidents if you go back to Helms threatening Clinton's life)? People who threaten or incite violence like that are nothing more than domestic terrorists and should be treated as such.

[onenote]

53. assuming you are right about what would've happened if a Democrat in a comparable position

to Bolton had made those remarks, do you think such a response (being labelled terrorist) would have been appropriate?

[seemslikeadream]

58. ~~~VAMPIRES~~~

[shadowknows69]

59. That's an insult to the Vampire community

I'd put them one step below your common zombie. The slow moving Romero zombie, not these 100 yard dash in 3 seconds new zombies.

[annm4peace]

60. FBI and Police Dept too busy spying on Peace groups and Peace Activists

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/article/2009/02/23/fbi-vet-rowley-rips-rnc-report-readies-wamm-complaints-pursues-police-data.html

in a report started 1 yr before RNC in St.Paul.. WAMM a non-violent peace group was reported to be part of terrorist activities.. as where other groups.
http://rnc08report.org/

How many non-violent peace, social justice, and environment groups are "under surveillance" ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/why-the-rnc-commission-re_b_169124.html

ret. FBI agent,Coleen Rowley often speaks of the words and works of Rigth wing Conservative Rep advocate violence or aka terrorism.

[Odin2005]

61. Sick, treasonous bastard.

The Secret Service and Homeland Security need to be put on his case STAT.

[newspeak]

63. this really bothers me

I am sick of hearing the repug mantra, "we're the ones who can keep you safe." They're the ones that dropped the ball on 9/11. The * administration was warned by the outgoing administration that terrorism would be their first priority. What did Ashcroft do? It seems like he concentrated on those sinful vices-prostitution and drugs. I mean Chong was a real threat to our country, as well as, those prostitutes in Louisiana. It looks like the August PDB was ignored, and yet, the neo-cons are still doing the same mantra about protecting us. Well, they didn't protect us on 9/11 and they didn't protect us when anthrax appeared. They use FEAR as a weapon against the American people (in my opinion).

And a side note-I read somewhere that grounds for Bolton's divorce was he wanted to "swing" and his wife did not. What is it with these neo-cons claiming family values BS-their rhetoric doesn't match their actions!!! Scalia mentioning group sex and Bolton's swinging. That doesn't include those who were caught soliciting and pedophilia.

[and-justice-for-all]

73. Why is that fucker still running his mouth at the UN??!

He is such a worthless bastard.