Do you support/request Admin sign DemocraticUnderground to List of Groups calling for Prosecution?

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Poll question: Do you support/request Admin sign DemocraticUnderground to List of Groups calling for Prosecution?

Would you like to see DU on the list of Groups calling for Special Prosecutor for Bush/Cheney et al?
108 votes, 95% approve
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5127177

Check-in thread for DUers seeking prosecution of Bush/Cheney administration criminals
175 replies in favor
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5075189

GROUPS REQUEST SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FOR BUSH, CHENEY, et alia
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/prosecutorstatement

Statement on Prosecution of Former High Officials

We urge Attorney General Eric Holder to appoint a non-partisan independent Special Counsel to immediately commence a prosecutorial investigation into the most serious alleged crimes of former President George W. Bush, former Vice President Richard B. Cheney, the attorneys formerly employed by the Department of Justice whose memos sought to justify torture, and other former top officials of the Bush Administration.

Our laws, and treaties that under Article VI of our Constitution are the supreme law of the land, require the prosecution of crimes that strong evidence suggests these individuals have committed. Both the former president and the former vice president have confessed to authorizing a torture procedure that is illegal under our law and treaty obligations. The former president has confessed to violating the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

We see no need for these prosecutions to be extraordinarily lengthy or costly, and no need to wait for the recommendations of a panel or “truth” commission when substantial evidence of the crimes is already in the public domain. We believe the most effective investigation can be conducted by a prosecutor, and we believe such an investigation should begin immediately.
Drafted by The Robert Jackson Steering Committee

Signed by,

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/prosecutorstatement

[Why Syzygy]

1. Went to see what the rules say.

Expected to read they don't take a stance such as this. But, since they say the following instead, I voted, "yes".

Democratic Underground (DU) was founded on Inauguration Day, January 20, 2001, to protest the illegitimate presidency of George W. Bush and to provide a resource for the exchange and dissemination of liberal and progressive ideas.
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However, you will get the satisfaction of knowing that as long as there are conservative idiots, Democratic Underground will be here to hold them accountable (and maybe even make fun of them).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/about.html

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2. thank you. have not received any other obvious issues... tho someone pointed out we may

may not be considered a "Group." Seems that's up to Admin.

There's at least one other Discussion Board signed on to the Group statement.

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3. Anyone who wants to comment on your vote, please do so. Nayesayers........?

[MADem]

4. I think if there's a "petition" going round, that individuals, not groups, should sign it

If the United Auto Workers signed on, you'd know damn well that not every UAW worker agreed with that. Groups that are any good aren't lockstep borgbots. It's a fake solidarity--sure, most of the people in the group might be for the measure, but it's never a hundred percent.

I think if the admins are behind it, they should encourage the membership to sign a petition individuals. That's probably a more effective strategy, anyway. "My Name is Joe Blow and I am a voter and I support this" is more meaningful, to me, than "The Association of People I've Never Heard of Supports this initiative."

JMO. YMMV.

[omega minimo]

7. Very good. There is that option for individual support at the same links.

:thumbsup:

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11. Not a "petition" -- here's the list of Groups signed on in support

Signed By:

Center for Constitutional Rights
http://www.ccrjustice.org

The National Lawyers Guild
http://www.nlg.org

Society of American Law Teachers - SALT
http://www.saltlaw.org

Human Rights USA
http://www.humanrightsusa.org

After Downing Street
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org

American Freedom Campaign
http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org

Ann Wright, retired US Army Reserve Colonel and US diplomat
http://www.voicesofconscience.com

ANSWER Coalition
http://www.answercoalition.org

Backbone Campaign
http://www.backbonecampaign.org

Brad Blog
http://www.bradblog.com

Cities for Peace
http://citiesforprogress.org

Citizens for Accountability, Ventura County

Citizens For Legitimate Government
http://www.legitgov.org

CODE PINK: Women for Peace
http://www.codepink4peace.org

Daniel Ellsberg, Truth-Telling Project
http://www.ellsberg.net

Defending Dissent Foundation
http://www.defendingdissent.org

Delaware Valley Veterans for America
http://www.delvalvets4america.org

Democrats.com
http://www.democrats.com

Glenn Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald

Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
http://www.space4peace.org

Gold Star Families for Peace
http://www.cindysheehanssoapbox.com

Grandmothers Against the War
http://www.grandmothersforpeace.org/gatw

Grassroots America
http://www.grassrootsamerica4us.org

High Road for Human Rights Advocacy Project
http://www.highroadforhumanrights.org

Impeach Colorado
http://impeachco.com

Impeach for Peace
http://impeachforpeace.org

Indict Bush Now
http://www.IndictBushNow.org

Individuals for Justice
http://www.IndividualsForJustice.org

Iraq Veterans Against the War
http://ivaw.org

Ralph Lopez, author of "Truth in the Age of Bushism," chairman, Jobs For Afghans
http://jobsforafghans.org

Justice Through Music
http://www.jtmp.org

Marcus Raskin, co-founder of Institute for Policy Studies, member of editorial board of the /Nation/, member of the special staff of the National Security Council in the Kennedy Administration

Media Freedom Foundation/Project Censored
http://www.projectcensored.org

Naomi Wolf, author of /End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot/, and /Give Me Liberty: A Handbook for American Revolutionaries/ http://naomiwolf.org

National Accountability Network

Northeast Impeachment Coalition
http://www.neimpeach.org/wp

Op Ed News
http://www.opednews.com

Partnership for Civil Justice (PCJ)
http://www.justiceonline.org

Peace Action
http://www.peace-action.org

Peace Team
http://www.peaceteam.net

People for Peace & Justice/St. Augustine, FL
http://www.staugppj.org

Peter McLaren, Professor, University of California, Los Angeles

The Progressive
http://www.progressive.org

Progressive Democrats of America
http://www.pdamerica.org

PDA/DFA South Jersey
http://pdamerica.org/statecaucus.php?s=NJ

The Public Record
http://pubrecord.org

Republicans for Impeachment
http://republicansforimpeachment.com

Save the Bill of Rights
http://www.savethebillofrights.org

Smirking Chimp
http://www.smirkingchimp.com

Christiane Brown, The Solution Zone
http://www.1230kjfk.com

Tulsa Impeachment Committee
http://impeachok1.org

United for Peace and Justice
http://www.unitedforpeace.org

Velvet Revolution
http://www.velvetrevolution.us

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/vips

Veterans for Peace
http://www.veteransforpeace.org

Voters for Peace
http://votersforpeace.us/index2.php

War Crimes Times
http://www.warcrimestimes.org

Wisconsin Impeachment/Bring Our Troops Home Coalition
http://www.impeachwi.com

World Can't Wait
http://www.worldcantwait.net

[Zhade]

5. I think, if DU has a conscience, we must.

NT!

[leftstreet]

6. I had to go with Admin Suckup Option #3

I'm all for it but don't enough about the site to know if endorsements can be problematic.

[omega minimo]

8. with all DU respect...

:patriot:


"if endorsements can be problematic...." so far no input to that effect has arrived.

If even the concept or option were offensive or problematic for DU Admin, I think they would have communicated that to this or the linked thread.

Thank you for your concerns and your comment. :hi: Glad I found an "other" options that resonates even if it's a "suck up" :spray:

[leftstreet]

9. Well for all you know the mods are too drunk to respond right now

It happens.

:hi:

[omega minimo]

10. What time is it where YOU are?

:toast:


oops had to edit #7, looked like I had a few... edit for sp. "inidiviudal" :spray:

[omega minimo]

12. kick for EST

:kick:

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13. MADDOW: you support a call for a criminal investigation, potential investigation.PELOSI: Absolutely

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5134310&mesg_id=5134310

MADDOW: Then in terms of your report, if the inspector general report that comes out this summer suggests that there has been criminal activity at the official level on issues like torture, or wireless wiretapping, or rendition, or any of these other issues...

PELOSI: No one is above the law. I think I have said that.

MADDOW: ... you support a call for a criminal investigation, potential investigation.

PELOSI: Absolutely.

[tom_paine]

14. Aye. K & R

:patriot:

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15. 9 hours, 52 votes, 86% Aye or Ambivalent

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16. 88%

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