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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:05 PM
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Fuck the rich! I never met the son of a rich bastard when I was in the Army.
They all dodged the draft, or mommy and daddy pulled strings to get them in a sweet NG unit. These rich bastards never send their kids off to war, yet these bastards worship war and make money off war. Obama, tax the fuck out of these assholes.

I was lucky with my orders and can't complain too much about two Army years in Washington as a draftee, but some of my Army friends and high school/college classmates who were not so lucky can't complain either.....because they are FUCKING DEAD! With that, I give you this old list of rich repuke draft dodgers and hypocrits.


George W. Bush
Dick Cheney
Karl Rove
Rush Limbaugh
Bill O'Rielly
Trent Lott
Mitch McConnell
Bill Bennett
George Will
Dennis Hastert
Saxby Chambliss
Michael Savage
Tom Delay
Dick Armey
Phil Gramm
Paul Wolfowitz
Richard Pearl
Scooter Libby
Lewis Card
Paul Bremer
Bill Frist
Jeb Bush
George Allen, Jr
Rudy Giuliani
Fred Thompson
David Dreier
Roger Ailes (Fox News Director)
Clarence Thomas
Newt Gingrich
Richard Shelby
Douglis Feith
John Ashcroft
Jack Kemp
Pat Buchanan
Bill Kristol
Fred Barnes
Ken Starr
Antonin Scalia
Ralph Reed
Michael Medved
Spencer Abraham
John Engler
George Pataki



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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:10 PM
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1. You Sir, are a hero!
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:14 PM
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2. Thanks, but I'm no hero - just lucky
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 11:39 PM by Elwood P Dowd
they sent me to Washington, DC. Lucky I was drafted at the age of 23 and could type 80-90 WPM.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:14 PM
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3. Nominated
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:16 PM
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4. As a somewhat unwilling draftee I would have been happy
if my dad would've been able to call in some chips from our local draft board and get me out of the draft or into some cushy guard unit.

I don't remember any rich kids serving with me either. And this was in the early 60's (pre Viet Nam).
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:20 PM
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5. Actually I did.
When I was in the Navy the guy the bunked above me was the grand son of Hiram Walker.
But this was in 1961 before Viet Nam and when we had a conscripted armed forces.
And he swabbed the deck when it was his turn like the rest of us...but when he had leave he was met at the gate with a limo.
And when he was transfered he smuggled in a pint of Hiram Walkers best for each of us.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:26 PM
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6. At Navy boot camp in '65 at GLAKES a rich kid enlistee
flipped out into epileptic type convulsions the 2nd day of boot camp. It was the part where you are standing in your underwear with a new sea bag and clothing. A very depressing moment. This blueblood flipped out, was taken away and never seen again. Someone later said he was discharged immediately and went home.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:30 PM
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8. There's a great story of a sub skipper in the 50s who was a member of the Morgan, as in JP family.
His sub and another sub bumped into each other in Long Island Sound. No significant damage. There was a board of inquiry. And another board of inquiry. At the third, this guy stood up and said he refused to attend another board of inquiry for something so trivial. If the Navy thought the damage was that bad, he'd BUY them a new submarine instead of going through another inquiry! And he left the room. There were no more inquiries.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:32 PM
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9. General Discharge probably. Yea, we had a couple of those.
One guy kept going to sick call and talking crazy. He finally got his GD.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:27 PM
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7. That's right.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:44 PM
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10. No one from my college got drafted for VN. One guy volunteered
as a helicopter pilot and got killed there (shot down). Small scout type copter.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:45 PM
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11. This list needs to go viral !!!!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:47 PM
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12. Shine on, Elwood, shine on!!!!
:patriot:
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:11 AM
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13. But I'll bet they religiously
wear flag lapel pins which PROVES 100%, absolutely, no-doubt, undeniably that they are true and bonafide patriots. :sarcasm:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:41 AM
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14. Kick, kick, kick!!!!!!!
Recommended.

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 06:16 AM
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15. actually both the Kennedy and Kerry families have sent children off to war
Joe Kennedy died in WW2 and Kerry served in VietNam.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 06:21 AM
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16. I ran across the children of the rich
during my professional schooling.

One beyotch did nothing but cater to the boys - they thought dating her would get them ahead in life - Daddy's influence, you know - she never studied or did anything, yet she got a good job of course. It was funny she baked and was fat yet somehow was still attractive to men! What an interesting mystery, when they are usually so picky about our figures! But Daddy's money and influence was VERY attractive.







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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:01 AM
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17. I met plenty in the CIA.
People who had money and didn't need to work for a living.

Why would someone work as a GS-7, when their Trust Fund income is in the six figures or more? I can tell you one thing. In many cases, it had nothing to do with public service, but rather, a way to get connected with Dictators and make financial deals on the side.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:02 AM
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18. A fellow soldier inherited $4Million while we were in Viet Nam
A boy from Texas got a letter in the mail one day when we were at a fire base on the Cambodian border (look up Dak To, 1967) that was getting the living shit blown out of it daily and with extremely heavy fighting to defend the base daily. Mail was sporadic because no ground transportation could get through to the place and non-essential aircraft were kept out because of the mortars, rockets, and recoilless rifle fire. On day a letter made it through and a large envelope arrived for Rory (another Spec 4 at the time). His grand mother had died several years earlier and they had divided up her fortune. Rory got four million, a small share of the fortune.

That was the last day Rory ever went out in the bush, in fact it was about the last day he ever went of of the bunker. He only had about 3 months to go in the Army and during that 3 months we protected him. We kept him away from as much as we could - after all, he was the only one of us that actually had much to go home to, and every one of us knew it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:11 AM
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20. I would have protected him too
Nice to see someone without anything get something once in a while ... and live to enjoy it.

You did the right thing.

Don
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:22 AM
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23. Short Time Safety Moe
With four mill in the bank. That's like, $15 million in today's money.

And wow for Dak To.

Welcome home.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:09 AM
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19. You condemn too many because I met many sons of rich families in the military. n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 08:10 AM by jody
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:13 AM
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21. But .. but ... Elvis got drafted
Only to get sent to Germany to play stink finger with the base commanders underage daughter who he went on to marry.

Don
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:18 AM
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22. I know there were some rich SOB's in the military - Sam Walton -
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 08:21 AM by old mark
of the WalMart Waltons - son John rejected his place in the family corporation to serve as an enlisted man in Army Special Forces - he was a medic in Vietnam, and was awarded the Silver Star for heroisn in saving lives while wounded by enemy fire. He was a very rich man himself at the time, and certainly could have evaded the draft, but chose to serve instead.
He was a real hero, and few people know it.

He died in 2005 while flying a homebuilt aircraft.
I am sure he was not the only one - the real heroes tend to go unnoticed much of the time.

mark

ADDED: Elwood,the "men" on your list above should be ashamed of themselves, but I doubt they have the capacity.

Thanks for posting it - I never realised how high the scum could float.

Rec.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:27 AM
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24. Even when people should know it - they distort it
Senator Kerry had misgivings about the war, but did not pull strings to get out after he was told that even postponing induction for a year to study abroad was not allowed. As his roommate was the nephew of the McGeorge and William Bundy, he had strings to pull.

He went to Vietnam, saved lives and the Republicans funded the swiftboat liars.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:39 AM
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25. It's less fuck the rich than it's fuck the power hungry
In a quick look down the list I really don't see anyone that is close to being on the Forbes 400. What I see are a list of people that although aren't hurting financially are much more motivated in the status one gains from power and have done so by walking on the backs of the American people.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:43 AM
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26. I was drafted and I knew a couple of guys who came from money.
So, I wouldn't condemn all the rich kids. But I do regard George W. Bush as a no good stinking yellow coward. I would just cringe when I saw him being saluted. It also got to me when he had those photo-ops at military bases and they would be praising the draft dodging bastard.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:07 AM
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27. "Richie Rich" showed up at flight school in Texas when I did.
He had scored a slot in the Texas Guard just like baby Bu$h had done (Guard dudes went on active duty for the duration of flight school). "Richie Rich" was heir to the Neiman side of the Neiman-Marcus fortune. This was in 1969 and he showed up for Pre-flight Phase in a 1969 Porsche 911S (no cars allowed on base during Pre-flight and "A" phases .. but he was allowed to have his). "Richie-Rich" lasted less than two weeks. He couldn't take the hazing and military discipline that the TAC officers dished out during Pre-flight Phase. "Richie Rich" quit and went back to Dallas, and presumably to his sinecure as a protected E-2 in the Texas Guard.

But when I got to Viet Nam it was obvious that the perquisites and shields of privilege had been well applied stateside. Not a rich puke in the unit! We were a cross section of the realm of everyman.

BTW: Great list of chickenhawks, Elwood.

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:23 PM
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28. Thank you for your service to our country.
:patriot:

Tax the rich. Feed the poor.

:dem:

-Laelth
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:47 PM
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29. I just Googled "Bill O'Reilly" and "chicken hawk", and got this hit:
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