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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:15 PM
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"Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut, because sometimes a cheese sandwich is just a cheese sandwich.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:18 PM
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1. one of my favorite vonnegut short stories.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:19 PM
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2. It's good to remember that even Vonnegut can be full of shit.
:D
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:22 PM
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3. And sometimes vegetables are just ketchup...
And sometimes vegetables are just ketchup...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:25 PM
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6. ==
:applause:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:24 PM
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4. I fail to see how this applies.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 01:25 PM by Occam Bandage
So people who disagree with shaming children as a means of inducing their parents to pay late bills are calling for artificially handicapping the brightest and most talented? In the movie adaptation, did I miss the scene where Sean Astin locked himself in a TV studio room to eat delicious hot lunches for hours in protest?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:27 PM
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8. Well, some of these Let Them Eat Cheese threads are suicidal
Kinda

:D
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:34 PM
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10. The TV adaptation was a piece of shit.
Fucked up a great short story with that locked in the control room bullshit scene.

I am not sure what the OP means. If it is using Vonnegut to defend shamimg children then the OP should be ashamed.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:36 PM
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11. Yes, but I was struck with the thought
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 01:37 PM by Occam Bandage
of Sean Astin gorging himself on ravioli and hot dogs for hours as a confused nation watched on TV, and that tickled me, so I thought I'd throw it in there. Besides, I couldn't think of an appropriately absurd comparison to the original story. Lunch boxes hanging off the dancers to weigh them down? Wouldn't make sense.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:24 PM
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5. Gee whiz, I wonder what side of the issue comrade Vonnegut would take.
Let's look at Vonnegut's "List of Liberal Crap He Doesn't Want to Hear Anymore:"


"Give us this day our daily bread. Oh sure.

Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those wh trespass against us.
Nobody better trespass against me. I'll tell you that.

Blessed are the meek.

Blessed are the merciful. You mean we can't use torture?

Blessed are the peacemakers. Jane Fonda?

Love your enemies - Arabs?

Ye cannot serve God and Mammon. The hell I can't! Look at the Reverand Pat Robertson. And He is as happy as a pig in shit."

Emphasis mine.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:26 PM
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7. Even when you're right, you make the worst arguments
It's really fucking cute. :D
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:39 PM
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12. Well, I had a better one.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:59 PM
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14. Yeah, that's actually much better.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:29 PM
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9. Sometimes a DUer completely misses the point.
Actually, that seems to happen a lot around here.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:10 PM
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17. I have no idea what the OP's point is. nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:13 PM
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19. Seems a pretty clear example of somebody completely missing the point.
Like when Jindal cites Katrina for why we need a smaller government.

Or the popularity of "fight clubs" after people saw the movie "The Fight Club."
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:43 PM
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13. That story is Vonnegut channeling Rand
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:57 PM
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15. Is this a carryover from another thread?
Because I don't know what the fuck you people are talking about.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:58 PM
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16. It's about 4 carryovers removed from the original thread.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:12 PM
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18. I don't understand what one has to do with the other.
:shrug:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:29 PM
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20. I don't get the connection
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