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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:06 PM
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for the next x-tian who says we are a *Christian* nation
here's a good link

http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/adams.htm


and a quote I particularly like;

"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen ... it is declared ... that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever product an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries....
"The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:07 PM
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1. Alas, if they only cared about facts...
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:12 PM
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2. Maher movie Religulous covered all of this brilliantly.
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:15 PM
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4. I haven't seen that
thanks for the reply.Will have to look that up.

Living in the heart of *live x-tian or die* country...I need all the ammo I can get :)
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:18 PM
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5. Well, let's say my wife and I are two specks of blue in a neighborhood of scary Baptist red!
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:20 PM
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6. I hear ya
SW Virginia here
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:13 PM
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3. Oh, god. That crap makes me throw up in my mouth. I hate the xtian nation shit. nt
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:35 PM
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7. it was passed unanimously by the senate...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:44 PM
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8. Christianity was not the driving force for the colonies to revolt against the British.
My recollection was that it was all about paying taxes without having a say in their local government.

And before that when the colonies settled in America it was all about making money for European countries.

And the United States was not the United States until they decided to revolt.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:51 PM
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12. And some of those colonies were founded by those leaving other colonies ...
because of religious persecution.

There never would have been a UNITED States had a religious ideology had to have been selected as its founding ethos. The last thing most of the Founders wanted was to create a religious nation, one where religion was sure to be the basis of civil war. Instead, they let slavery play that role.
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steelmania75 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:44 PM
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9. It's not a Christian Nation, it's a CATHOLIC Nation...
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:19 PM
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14. You mean a Holy Catholic and Apostolic Nation!
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:45 PM
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10. Thanks to those Christians..
I'm a militant atheist now!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:47 PM
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11. Ah, going back to Adams this eve!
But he was just a president, so why listen to him? Besides, he was a Unitarian, so can't be trusted.
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 06:01 PM
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13. haha
my wife had to ask me what I was laughing about.

Thank you :toast:
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